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Zelenskyy thanks US after House passes aid bill
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He doesn't need to thank us, he deserves our thanks for fighting against fascism. Some of the best money the US has ever spent. Now, redirect all money from Israel to Ukraine.
Seriously, even if Israel wasn't evil, it could still quite easily do whatever it's doing by itself. Even if it wasn't evil, it doesn't need help doing what it does.
Yet here we are.
Well, it's just being polite.
Exactly. And showing he doesn't feel entitled to help, and actually appreciates it greatly.
Its 1980 again and my man is the Saddam Hussein of the 21st Century.
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Rofl... Are you at least paid for this shit? Cause if not... Imagine being so fucking dumb that you actually believe that shit and on top of that, instead of preaching somewhere where you've got a chance, you stay on Lemmy. It's so fucking sad, man.. can't you see it? You're trying to sell meat to a bunch of vegans, it's hilarious.
So stupid you're familiar with US history prior to 1991?
If you think the Saddam story is unbelievable, wait till you learn about Noriega.
Why do folks who want to sound incredulous just sound like they're high as fuck?
You’re correct about the missteps of US foreign policy.
But your argument is a nonstarter because the people you’re talking about were literal dictators in authoritarian systems.
Ukraine is literally fighting to engage with the liberal West, over authoritarian East, against a foreign aggressor. And it’s done a very good job of keeping and even improving its democratic institutions through this war (I’m referring more to transparency of laws and changes to how corruption is dealt with, specifically).
We're heading dick first into the meat grinder of another Trump administration. And that's nationally. Nevermind all the tinpot governors we've got running around the Gulf Coast and Midwest. What do you think happens when they're back in charge of the national military again?
That's before we get into the finer points of "authoritarianism" when you're funding a proxy war overseas by rubber stamping a government takeover of a social media company at home.
They're in a turf war over the Donbas. But the deadline for elections in the Ukraine was constitutionally mandated for March 31st of 2024. We're three weeks past that with no plans for a vote in sight. I would say Ukraine is officially off the board as a "liberal democracy", at least as long as martial law lasts. And with the new arms shipment looking to close off the possibility of a ceasefire, that suggests elections are postponed indefinitely.
Ah, so you’re just not inclined to see reason, and toss in a little bit of whataboutism with your replies that minimalize a full scale invasion of a sovereign country as a “turf war.”
It’s my mistake for engaging with an obviously disingenuous poster. You can go fuck yourself.
If you think its reasonable to amp up the war machine and then hand it over to Cheeto Mussolini, I guess we're working with different definitions of the phrase.
My man, try touching some grass. You're way to invested with this thread.
"My man, try touching some grass. You're way to invested with this thread."
Says the "person" with at least 15 replies in this thread... See, I may sound high, but at least I can admit when I'm wrong or crazy... You can't even see how sad you are anymore.
That'd be your inner narrative embellishing fucking reality with filigree and lace to fit your shit-ass perspective.
Jim Jefferies said it best: "That's the problem with crazy people; they don't know they're crazy". Way to illustrate his insightful point by telling us you hear our voices in your head, dumbass.
Sure thing, Cheech.
Yes we are all well aware that Republicans have a long history of appeasing dictators. Same as now.
Not just Republicans...
The flood of weapons going into Israel, Ukraine, and Taiwan is going to fuel the same kinds of conflicts that arms sold to Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, and Jordan fueled 40 years ago.
When the building conflict between Poland and Ukraine goes hot...
When some of the enormous third-party arms market ramped up in these countries spills into neighboring Egypt and Turkey...
When someone with a MANPADS and nefarious intent gets within striking distance of a civilian airport...
Shit is going to pop off in a way folks just watching TV and clapping for their favorite team simply aren't prepared for.
I see a Republican shaking hands with a dictator. Exactly like the Butcher Putin appeasers now.
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/02/24/world/CN-24ukraine-briefing-Russianprotestssub-copy/24ukraine-briefing-Russianprotestssub-videoSixteenByNine3000.jpg
They posted a picture of Obama and Clinton. They aren't Republicans
Next, you'll misinterpret 1984 to describe this as a "we were always at war with Oceania" moment".
Yes we know Butcher Putin is your man. And yes he is a lot like that other tyrant dictator.
Me and my close friend, Vladdy Daddy.
Lol, couldn't even find a picture where they smiled or even looked at one another.
Sigh, the simpler times of 2012, the neoliberals really thought they'd won that one, that Russia would stop simping for dictators, start drinking democracy juice, and focus on exploiting labor instead of conquering it.
Two western proxies, Israel and Ukraine, holding off two supermember states of the modern Axis of Evil/Group of Friends: Russia and Iran. Gaza and the West Bank are to Iran what Belarus and Crimea are to Russia, just further along; Russia already has a working nuclear weapons program and have parked nukes in Belarus and taken over reactors in Crimea. Nobody is going to let Iran get that far. Russia says they are fighting fascism, too. Why do you believe it when Iran says it but not Russia?
You do understand that Israel is the aggressor here? Yeab yeah, they had a huge terror attack. After 50 years of continued treating Palestinians like shit and randomly killing them whenever they want, stealing their land, and so on, they (foolishly) strike back and give Israel a bloody nose. Yes, on the personal level, it's a huge tragedy, but on the level of a country, they got a fucking bloody nose. They then proceed to commit genocide, murder thousands of children... You'd think that of there is a single country that knows better, that it would be Israel, but alas, here we are.
Iran is basically being opportunistic here, bit also just responded to Israel bombing it's embassy. All Ayers here are dirty as shit but You CAN'T claim Israel is even remotely a hero in any of this. Israelites are just happily stealing more land.
Nah I don't see it that way at all. Gaza's political and community leaders put their kids in harm's way and and then celebrate their deaths as "martyrs," which is just coded speech for "human shields used by fanatical warlords to increase the human price of Israel's strikes against Hamas members and the hundreds of miles of tunnels they built under neighborhoods and schools." Lying about it to everyone and coming to the international community with crocodile tears is the only weapon for Hamas and it's many pan-Islamist ideological allies, other than straight up hostage-taking, indiscriminate rocket attacks, mass shootings, and suicide bombings.
Hamas would scuttle the tunnels and surrender if they had any concern about human lives in Gaza, other than their own. Maybe Gaza could have elections and international ports of entry again, bring in all the food and medicine they want, you know, if they had a legitimate legal system and government, if they ever even one single time treat a war criminal as a criminal instead of as a hero, maybe they could develop an economy based on something other than spending everything on weapons to kill Jews while the entire population is malnourished and living philanthrope-to-philanthrope.
Don't need to think Israel is the heroes to understand, as a country, it has redeeming qualities.
Last time Palestine held an election the elected officials were in favor of maintaining peace with Israel. Then the Israeli government came in and kidnapped or killed the elected officials. They were replaced with unelected, not pro peace officials, and here we are, no more elections, no more peace.