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Do they want Baphomet in their schools? Because this is how you get Baphomet in your schools.

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[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It’s technically not against the Constitution. The First Amendment prevents the government from creating or establishing a religion, and thereby prevents the power of the government from expanding beyond civil matters.

SCOTUS further restricted religious public education by ruling against religion in public curriculum in Engel v. Vitale in 1962.

Having religious text on display without induction into the curriculum is legal. Only now that they’ve mandated one religion, other religions have a platform for equal representation. Maybe it’s time for The Satanic Temple to open a Louisiana congregation?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Lol no. And SCOTUS has said no several times. There is no, "oops I left my Bible out and accidentally converted some kids" carve out for government employees. Religion stays at the door.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

SCOTUS has ruled against it in curriculum, but separation of church and state is from one of Johnson’s speeches, and not technically in the Constitution. I wish it were. My point wasn’t implying defense of the display. I don’t want it in schools either. I’m simply saying if they want to play by the rules of Originalism, then all churches deserve equal representation according to the Constitution.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

That's already part of the SCOTUS rulings.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Do you have a link to that case ruling? I’d like to be up to date. I’m familiar with Engel v. Vitale, but that is exclusive to curriculum teaching. It does not apply to religious works on display.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Stone v Graham was exactly this. Kentucky tried to put the Ten Commandments into schools. SCOTUS said no.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

That’s great! So there precedent. It’s only a lawsuit away from being removed.

[-] obviouspornalt@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 6 months ago

Right! Precedent, like Roe v Wade!

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Roe v. Wade was overturned by the Supreme Court. Stone v. Graham has not been. If a case challenges the state, they can use it as precedent.

[-] obviouspornalt@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 6 months ago

And then it can be overturned!

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

True. I wouldn’t put anything past this conservative SCOTUS.

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