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[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 104 points 6 months ago

The original idea behind school isn't to educate the masses. Why would a factory worker need to know calculus and Shakespeare? He needs to read the clock and timetables, be on time, wake up in the morning early enough to be punctual, ...

Likewise higher education isn't about the thinks you learn. It is about learning methods to learn. If you can learn the nitrogen cycle, you can learn our scrum statuses. If you can hand in your homework in time, you can keep our deadlines.

This isn't to say the system is good, but it helps to understand it when you want to criticize it.

[-] pumpkinseedoil@sh.itjust.works 42 points 6 months ago

But learning to critically question statements and judging them yourself (which requires some knowledge, for example you can't question anti-vaxxers when you don't know anything about how vaccines work) instead of simply believing them is extremely important in a democracy.

[-] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 6 months ago

Judging sources for the information requires way less knowledge. To continue your analogy, for most people it's obvious to take your medical advice from your family doctor instead of that crazy aunt in Facebook

[-] pumpkinseedoil@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

While you'd generally believe that to be true it can be hard for people with no knowledge who aren't the brightest to see through statements like "doctors just are part of the wealthy smart people society who aim to keep us down".

Never underestimate human stupidity.

[-] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The problem is when medicine is for profit, you really do end up with that feeling when doctors are rushed to get you out of the door because they need to see ten patients an hour. When you’re the product it’s harder to build that trust.

It was probably better before when family doctors actually had a relationship with your family.

[-] Uvine_Umbra@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 6 months ago

Dont you think that answer is far to clear cut? How about if it's abstatement heard from a supposed friend's doctor and you dont want to get a hold of your family doctor for as inane of a question as it is?

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 10 points 6 months ago

I have watched YouTube videos of smart people reading a smart book that basically said that our education system has the focus on learning facts which gives us a submissive attitude. It gives us a feeling of passivity, of the silent observer.

That said, I realize that the system is getting better in the sense that it tries to evoke curiosity and makes kids to explorers instead of observers if that makes sense. Also, as someone who got interested in history only after school, I know that basic knowledge is important and bad if missing. Than again, why didn't school make me want to know stuff.

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

There’s ample evidence to show that no one learns critical thinking in college. At best, you select for people who are better at it.

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