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[-] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 38 points 4 months ago

Competition shooter here. Olympic shooting is boring as hell.

Americans place really well in IPSC, USPSA, and 3gun.

The IPSC rifle world shot is happening right now in Finland.

[-] aidan@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

USPSA

It would be a little strange if Americans didn't place well in United States Practical Shooting Association competitions

[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

So it should be even easier, right?

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

No. Why do you think that logic follows?

[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago

Because a self-proclaimed competition shooter said it's boring. Boring things usually aren't more difficult than the non-boring version.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

You're already backtracking by saying "usually" so you could easily answer your own question here: this is an unusual case.

But that being said, there is nothing in the definition of boring that contains the term "easier." Like go play video games for an hour, then go sit in a room with the lights off and try to guess when an hour has passed. You'll see how easily boring can be much more difficult.

[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

What did I backtrack from? You asked for my logic and you got it. Here's some more.

Most words have more than one denotation and all words have innumerable connotations. That's where context and inference come into play, both of which I employed in determining precisely what the original commentor meant by "boring as hell." It seemed obviously defensive given the context of the meme, as did many other comments in this thread trying to distance Olympic shooting from ~~slaughtering school kids~~ hunting or whatever. That implied, to my subjective reasoning, that the commentor thought it was somehow inferior to whatever version of competitive gun-shooting they prefer. If your subjective reasoning led you to believe "boring as hell" meant "really, really hard," that's something you'll have to settle with you and your brain, friend.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago

What did I backtrack from?

You started with it "should" be easier to "usually" being easier. Statement of fact to just more than 50%.

If your subjective reasoning led you to believe “boring as hell” meant “really, really hard,” that’s something you’ll have to settle with you and your brain, friend.

You're projecting. I do not believe that saying something is boring indicates anything about it's relative difficulty. That's you.

[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

You're thinking of "would." "Should" just means it's probable. You know, like "usually."

You're projecting

Again, I'm using context and experience to infer your opinion. Naturally it's bound to be biased, it is my experience, but it's the best I can do with nothing but your condescending whinging to go on.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee -2 points 4 months ago

You’re thinking of “would.” “Should” just means it’s probable. You know, like “usually.”

Fair enough, I stand corrected.

Again, I’m using context and experience to infer your opinion.

Well, hopefully going forward your experience will now help guide you to what should have been obvious the whole time: there was precisely zero context that indicated I thought that.

condescending whinging to go on.

Lol imagine with starting this whole thing by condescendingly telling the poster that because they find it boring it should be easier...and then turning around and whining that you completely fabricated a strawman because someone else was condescending.

It never cease to amaze me how often other posters see themselves in me, and seem to hate it.

[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Now that sounds like projection if I've ever heard it. I love myself! You don't suppose anyone ever sees you in you and doesn't like what they see, do you?

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee -4 points 4 months ago

Oh, certainly people see me in and me and don't like it. I'm sure even you do. But your post here amounts to nothing more than "I know you are but what am I" and so it's pretty clear you also see yourself and don't like it.

But don't worry, I don't expect you to admit it. Ffs, you even created a strawman and then blame me for you doing it. It's obvious you will go far to protect your ego from admitting fault.

[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I just answered your questions 🤷‍♂️ Sorry you didn't like the answers.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee -4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

At what point did I accuse you of avoiding questions? You doing okay over there?

[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

See, this response, like your others, shows a definite lack of contextual reasoning. You never accused me of avoiding anything and the fact that you think I think you did (apart from being obvious projection) shows you have misunderstood everything I've said on a fundamental level. So again, I'm sorry you don't like the answers to your questions, but I don't have any different answers to give you.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee -4 points 4 months ago

Oh, sorry. I didn't realize you had gone all the way back to the beginning of this and had abandoned the fact that you keep projecting onto me.

It had nothing to do with me not liking your answer, but pointing out the glaring logical flaws of it. But I don't have any different response to logically fallacious arguments.

[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

So the "glaring logical flaw" in me suggesting that Olympic shooting must be easier than whatever other form of competitive shooting op was talking about because it's "boring as hell" was that I was projecting my opinion onto you? Even though you weren't part of the discussion yet? Huh?

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago

So the “glaring logical flaw” in me suggesting that Olympic shooting must be easier than whatever other form of competitive shooting op was talking about because it’s “boring as hell” was that I was projecting my opinion onto you?

No, I explained it to you. But you don't like the explanation. It's like you were warning me.

[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

All you ever said was that I was projecting, which was not a critique of my logic but of my delivery of the explanation of the logic. You haven't actually addressed my point in any of these comments.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago

All you ever said was that I was projecting

Incorrect. Feel free to go back to the beginning, which you've already done, and reread my dismantling of your garbage logic.

You just ignored it and started whining about how your strawmen and projection was actually my fault.

[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

All you did was misunderstand the word "should" and then cry "projection,' neither of which addressed my actual argument in the slightest.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago

All you did was misunderstand the word “should”

Incorrect. I admitted I was wrong here and made another argument. However, in your previous post you said "all I did" was say that you were projecting. Now "all I've done" is something completely different. Maybe you should stop trying to cherry pick parts of my argument as "all I did" and address my actual points.

[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Make a point and I'll address it.

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