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Tangent: If we started buying risc-v systems we might get to a point where they can actually compete.
That's still far away from us as a consumer standpoint, but I'm eagerly waiting for a time when I could buy a RISC V laptop with atleast midrange computing capabalities
I‘m more on the builder/tinkerer side so I‘m pretty much in starting position with risc-v now. But yes, its going to be some time before any of it is user ready as a pc.
Framework has a laptop in progress if you're interested
Indeed I am. I‘m in posession of a working laptop but I could maybe order a riscv tablet from pine64. I already have the pinetime and the stuff is pretty awesome.
Well the Star64 from Pine is pretty good, just doesn't have enough processing power and IO for my liking.
It is crazy efficient
As in efficient per watt or some other metric?
Per watt
I'm not buying hardware that doesn't suit my needs as an investment hoping maybe it eventually will.
This is one of the hardest earned lessons I’ve ever learned, and I’ve had to learn it over and over again. I think it’s mostly stuck now but I still make the same mistake from time to time.
Yeah, thats the reason why we‘re in this capitalist hellhole. Perfection comes from billionaire money, nothing else.
What are you talking about perfection?
Buying something that doesn't function is never rational.
You were misrepresenting things. Your needs have nothing to do with things not being functional. Something can be perfectly functional and not meet someones needs. Nobody said you should buy it as an investment.
My interpretation was by far the most generous to your position, because it's the only way it's coherent.
If people bought [this hardware that doesn't actually provide anything anyone can realistically use at a reasonable price] it might eventually not suck. That's treating a current purchase as an imaginary investment in maybe eventually being able to buy something useful.
You’re entitled to your opinion, I guess.
Thats misrepresenting reality and making assumptions while clearly showing lack of expertise
Thats completely arbitrary. If a price is reasonable or not depends on many factors. Obvious oversymplification.
This shows that you have no idea what you are talking about. Small companies and open source projects depend on people buying their products instead of cheaper, sometimes better performing products of big conglomerates for other reasons than price alone.
Value is absolutely not arbitrary.
"Reasonable" means comparable with x86/ARM at the same performance level. Anything more is, by definition, not capable of being reasonably priced.
You're again advocating for an imaginary investment in a bad product.
Yeah no. Forget it. We‘re not speaking the same language.
Jeff Geerling had a video recently about the state of RISC V for desktop. https://youtu.be/YxtFctEsHy0?si=SUQBiepSeOne8-2u
I really enjoyed watching it. Thanks for referring to it.
I'm waiting to see how DeepComputing's RISC-V mainboard for the Framework turns out. I'm aware that this is very much a development platform and far from an actual end-user product, but if the price is right, I might jump in to experiment.
Sounds like a cool idea! :)
At the rate we are going Qualcomm might pivot to Risc-V (they are being sued by ARM)
Interesting! Thanks for chiming in. I‘ll read up about it.