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Man, remember when getting a sneaky beej was the most shocking thing a president could do?
Remember the OUTRAGE the right exhibited?? I always knew they were full of shit and hitching their waggon to Trump proved it without the shadow of a doubt.
it's still sexual harassment if not assault and what happened to Lewinsky at the time is a national disgrace. the republicans were faking outrage but on the other side there was none, and that's shameful too.
Oh I think there was plenty of outrage from Hillary. He'd have felt that behind closed doors.
If she'd opened that door, she might not have lost in 2016. Hard to respect the judgement of someone who was still married him after all that. Her loss was a perfect storm of a lot of factors, but I believe that was one of them.
The other thing they could have done is just be honest about their relationship . Their marriage is political and economic, and they may very well have great affection for each other - I don't know. But they clearly don't expect fidelity in their relationship, and if that's what works for them that's fine. Just be honest about it.
I have a lot more of a problem with Bill taking sexual advantage of a 22yo intern while he was President of the United States. That power imbalance makes consent nearly impossible, and I'm still mad at my fellow Dems for defending that.
He should have been impeached for that, not the trumped-up perjury bullshit.
We also would've had an incumbent President Gore going into 2000, which might have been nice.
Trump is way worse, and the "perjury trap" used with separate definitions of "sex" in the 2 investigations (Lewinsky and Jones) so Clinton couldn't answer the question without committing perjury was bullshit.
But in the post "me-too" era can my fellow Dems admit that the President of the United States getting a 22yo White House intern to give him a blowjob is beyond unacceptable. There's such a massive imbalance of power in that relationship that consent is really tricky.
As a Dem, I'm going to say that I don't support what Bill Clinton did given their power level difference. But, I do acknowledge what Trump did was way worse, and I will always compare him negatively to whatever you come up with.
Lying about sex is a tradition that goes straight back to the Jefferson administration.