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Of course it would fucking be Irvine and of course it would be the provenly-inedfective D.A.R.E. folks.
For you non Californians, Irvine is a corporation that bought up land and made a "utopian" suburban city. I went to grad school there. It's the kind of place you get pulled over for having long hair (as I can attest to).
Edit with a joke: People from Irvine be all like "Who is John Galt".
For everyone's reference, D.A.R.E (Drug Abuse Resistance Education) was not only ineffective, they were anti-effective. Their presence and total demonization of weed not only didn't reduce drug usage rates, they frequently increased the rates.
They've been known to be ineffective since at least 2004: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448384/
DARE is a wild program. They finally admitted defeat to drugs and have switched to suicide prevention. The kids that do petitions for them, at least around me, are militant. I had one follow me into a restaurant to keep pestering me. Didn't stop until I told the children to kindly fuck off already
Yeah, that was my experience. All those stories made me more curious about drugs than anything else even back in elementary school. Also, having people that used to have addiction problems come in to talk about them showed that you could get through them.
Also didn't really help that the one guy's description of things going wrong for him was basically a bus ride with a hangover where he needed to puke out the window. And that he still did it after that, implying that there was something good about it.
It wasn't DARE exactly but some Canadian equivalent. I hadn't really thought about drugs that much before that and didn't shy away when I had an opportunity to try weed a few years later (thought it was interesting but not worth the money at the time).
Also it only took taking psychedelics a few times to figure out the real problem authority has with them: they can help you break down your preconceived notions and see through the leaps of "logic" that the current system depends on.
Like the first time I did mushrooms, I realized that authority figures (like doctors, police, etc) were just people like you or me and included people having bad days, people not focused on the current task, people who cheated their way through school or got to where they were via corruption, people who think they understand something better than they really do or base their knowledge on outdated information, trolls and bullies, as well as people trying their best in good faith.
It was so obvious in hindsight, but I realized that up until then I had this implicit trust that even if there were times I didn't fully agree with them, they were generally "different" in a "better" kind of way instead of a spectrum of the same kind of people you went to high school with, just with a selection process that is supposed to filter some out (with varying degrees of success).
Same experience here.
While in elementary school, the DARE guy told us that drugs just make you dizzy, like when you spin in circles. He told us to just go run around and we'd feel the same. I thought that sounded awesome! All the good feelings of exercise without the exercise. Fuck yeah!
DARE turned little me into a proto druggie.
The kids that did petitions in my experience seemed to have a chip on their shoulder to impress authority or they were related to a cop. Also, there would be prizes like a PSP or an iPod touch. Higher value stuff than any other fundraiser in the school.
the kid i bought weed from in high school wore his dare hoodie to school because he thought it was funny. he was right.
D.A.R.E. taught me that random people will force me to take drugs. Still waiting on that one. We did learn you can get high from sniffing glue though.
It's a real shame; Irvine has lots of great food, and it's another large east-Asian population center within the LA-OC metro area, but it's also so staunchly Republican that I can't stand to watch local news down there.
That's nothing against the university, though. I have family who got their degrees there, and I even took summer classes on campus once. I dig the school and it was my fallback when I applied for colleges (back when it was possible to have a fallback).