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[-] PhrygianFudge@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 weeks ago

So instead everyone should just surrender to Putin to avoid violence?

[-] oatscoop@midwest.social 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I think they're saying Ukraine should have been given everything they needed to win the war quickly from the start. A lot of people believe the "slow trickle" of aid was designed to drag the war on.

The argument is that a long war is far more damaging to russia, whereas a losing a short war leaves them in a better position to recover and try again in the near future -- beating russia to a bloody pulp vs giving it a black eye.

[-] PhrygianFudge@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

Ah. Well, a short victory, I think, would have been a decisive blow to Russia. I think that could even have lead to a regime-change. I definitely don't like the idea that so many people should suffer to weaken the enemy. Giving Ukraine much more to begin with would have showed Russia not to fuck with its neighbours. If that's what the original commenter meant, I definitely understand their point of view.

[-] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

He's the most courageous online communist revolutionary

[-] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

An inspiration to us all.

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