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[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 12 points 3 weeks ago

Look, I'll be honest with you, I just don't want to misunderstand you, but the implication made me throw up a little in my mouth.

Did you just say that young men need to be killed off periodically because you think they are otherwise a burden to society?

[-] Carmakazi@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago

No. I'm saying that's how the issue has been handled historically, possibly deliberately in some cases, but more likely just coincidentally. Not that we need to go back to it in some exercise in eugenics. "The issue" being something to do with an outmoded view of masculinity that was never substantially replaced as the world got less violent and dire. I would rather fix that. How? I don't know.

That said, your disgust with the phenomenon does not necessarily make it wholly untrue. Right now we have a bunch of maldeveloped, entitled sex pests with violent ideation who just helped vote in a thousand-year Reich. "Burden" is not the right word for them. Rejected by polite society, they have had no outward outlet for their chauvinism and rage, and so they have turned it inward on the rest of us.

How many American military age men do you think are going to be killed in the next 5-10 years?

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago

Just because your politics has managed to alienate young men the most, so they are the most likely to be voting for anything but establishment, does not mean military age men in general are "maldeveloped, entitled sex pests". In fact, I would bet more military age men just didn't vote than vote Trump, because they felt Harris doesn't represent them, and not because she's a woman. This is a wholly US culture war driven phenomenon. Fun fact, Orbán's voters are majority female, most men vote for the opposition, especially among military age men.

Military age men historically have been the driving force behind the greatest examples of rapid societal progress. Military age men coming back from the hell of WWI have been the ones to destroy the divine right of kings and the feudal world order. Military age men fought in the revolutions against the authoritarian communist world.

Of course, a lot of governments did things to get rid of military aged men, but it was almost always because they were the primary threat to outmoded world views, not the ones to preserve it.

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