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Dude. Any one of the European countries doing this is as small as one of our states. Even the largest ones aren't the same size and scale as our largest ones. Then each state is diverse to a suprising level and has individual groups, laws and viewpoints that affect them all differently. And that's all ignoring the politics of everything. And ignoring that Americans have zero safety nets for when they are out of work for something like a strike. Most don't have enough food or money saved to survive a strike. You are very obviously ignorant of life here, whether you live here or not. A nationwide general strike is impossible here. When I see a coordinated strike across all of europe, you might have a point. And if a general strike is decided here I will be among the first to sign up. But until then you are too ignorant of the states and their people to make any assertion as to what is possible here.
I'm not ignorant. I know there are too many people like you who refuse to participate because they have no faith in themselves or others. I will now and forevermore count you as opposition. It's your short sightedness that will prevent meaningful change.
Lol now and forevermore. Can you be any more dramatic? I'm not being short sighted, I'm being realistic. And even if I am I can turn stupid sentiments like that around and say it's your inaction that prevents it. If you think it's so possible and easy and you have the know how, then get it moving. Or are you not going to do shit but bitch on the internet either? I'll sign up when you have a date and meaningful involvement and I'll happily eat my words and apologize and admit short sightedness that I thought was just a realistic take. I'm not opposed to strikes, I just think a general strike across all industries across all 50 states is so unfathomably complex as to be practically impossible. I don't think you could even get lip service to one let alone active participation. There are too many hurdles and logistic issues and not enough discomfort across all people to spur us over them on that all 50 states level.
Disregarding clinicallydepressedpoochie's weird blend of a hero complex and defeatist puritanism, the concept of one big union organizing strikes across trades and states, while never really successful, did play a significant part in galvanizing workers and popularizing unions. Even in smaller countries where general strikes are more common, they remain isolated events, but they do a lot to promote the potential unions have in giving workers a voice, and grow unions' ranks by increasing enrollment.
Thanks for a level headed comment and that link. I'll read it more in depth later. I'm all for unions, I wish my particular sector of industry had more unions because we get fucked pretty hard. I'd be interested in joining if there was one for what I did. Convincing others might be difficult though because many don't see our treatment as poor for some reason. (Contast overtime, on-call, and burnout levels of work are standard practice)
There's good reason for that, outside of a few industries, American unions were pretty comprehensively dismantled by the likes of Reagan. We're resilient creatures, we'll tolerate a lot before burning out, but people will also demand better conditions if they're shown they can have a say. We just don't have many contemporary examples of workers wielding that kind of power in the states. The guilds in the movie industry are a steadfast counterexample, though, and united auto workers have been showing some muscle recently. There's no denying it's a really tough battle, but people will fight back if they're given some hope.
Yeah that's a good point. I do cheer those groups on and supoort them when I can.