Is /r/fuckyouzoomer emerging as a sort of new semi-feminist shitredditsays? (hexbear.net)

submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by Awoo@hexbear.net to c/slop@hexbear.net

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Seems like this subreddit has recently appeared criticising a lot of the toxic misogyny that is apparent among GenZ boys/men.

Shit like this thread gives a good example of the mindsets young women are dealing with among these guys: https://www.reddit.com/r/FuckYouZoomer/comments/1gv5pdl/date_with_a_typical_podcast_bro_brainrotted/

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Maybe this isn't the space that will properly counter it, some of it is deeply reactionary, but there seems to be an energy and interest building in countering it now. Enough people seem to view it as a problem.

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[-] Frank@hexbear.net 23 points 3 weeks ago

the abuse and the expected subordination has become part of the conscious gender performance of men

CW: discussion of abuse, Texas

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Again, I don't know that much about how Zoomers are behaving, but when I was a kid in Texas this was definitely in force. Violence from adult men towards women and children, violence from boys towards boys they viewed as having lower standing, girls, and women. It was a very deliberate and brutal enforcement of patriarchy. The men would sit in the living room, drink beer, watch football. The women, who had jobs and were raising the kids, were expected to do all the cooking and cleaning and were subject to verbal abuse in the form of teasing and heckling while doing so. Kids who made noise, were noticed by adult men, or god forbid spoke up for themselves or stood out in any way were subject to verbal and physical violence from men which the women supported and reinforced.

Again, idk what's really going on with zoomer men, the ones I know are pretty normal, but ruthless, overt, violent patriarchy has been around.

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Jesus. I'm glad I grew up in a family context with nearly no men so that wasn't the case. There was patriarchy and misogyny all around, but at least not in the private space, and not from men, just because there weren't any around.

I think the key word in my observation was conscious. I used to see men enforcing the patriarchy violently when I was younger, but it wasn't articulated through the overt expression of an ideology of mysogyny, it was the hegemony reproducing itself. Now I see an element of intentionality to it in the nastier zoomers I've interacted with.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, it was real bad. I was able to get out after a couple of years and ended up somewhere that, while still full of problems, was overall much more chill, with much less gendered violence and much less repressive of individuality

[-] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago

I am starting to really appreciate my soft spoken and sweet father. Never raised a finger against anyone, helped cook and never instilled any of these reactionary patterns in us

[-] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

If you haven't already read The Will To Change there's a great few chapters all about this kind of thing, I look forward to seeing you in the reading group.

[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.

But they were fucked up in their turn
By fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another’s throats.

Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don’t have any kids yourself.