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[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

I would like to congratulate the moderators of blahaj.zone for successfully preventing a Harris presidency.

The guys who've spent the last year telling the democrats "You need to stop the genocide and promote popular left policy if you want to win" are not responsible for the dems loss. The dems are responsible for their own loss for ignoring the obvious advice of "stop doing the thing that made you lose in 2022 and 2016 and 2010 and 2004 and instead do the thing that made you win in 2008 and 2020"

It's particularly gross to suggest a predominantly trans instance wanted a trump presidency.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 weeks ago

I agree that it's the Democrats' fault that they lost, but I stand by the assertion that people who would rather not vote at all than vote for the lesser of two evils are partially to blame when the greater of two evils wins.

I didn't say they wanted a Trump presidency, I said they didn't want a Harris presidency. I only congratulated them on their efforts to prevent that.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 weeks ago

The people saying "Genocide, punishing immigrants, tough-on-crime rhetoric, and complicated, means-tested bullshit decreases your bases turnout" are not at fault for those unpopular policies decreasing turnout. Everyone who failed to publicly criticize the dems so they could maintain the delusion they could win while promising to do the opposite of what the people whose votes they depend on want are far more culpable.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No, the people who decided not to vote because the better candidate wasn't better enough are to blame

[-] aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

I can agree both those things happened, but you're saying one of them had a much stronger effect and so far i'm not seeing any evidence presented

[-] Anomaline@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Trans people voted for Harris, overwhelmingly. The problems were with white guys with a weird stick up their ass trying to convince everyone else not to vote to protect us. Good work I guess, you got what you wanted.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

Nobody was telling people not to vote Harris, there's a difference between that and telling the dems that the policies and messaging they adopted from the Republican's 2016 platform were wildly unpopular and will not win the election.

And if the dems successfully ignore and silence all criticism from the left, they're going to do the same shit in 2026 and 2028.

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