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I've been away for a bit, mostly lurking when I'm on to scroll the news comm. I've just had this feeling of nothingness ever since I really processed that we are all the losers of history. That the economic system, in order to reproduce itself will either metaphorically throw us in the scrap pile once we wear out or burn us for fuel.

I guess I get irked whenever I see people talking about organizing at a local level. I just think people in general would rather have scapegoats to let the state persecute than think and do the actual work of fighting against the class system that sits on their necks. And it seems either a perverse mockery or an empty gesture whenever we point to leftist figures that lived nearly a century ago and are spurred on to follow their example, while we live in completely different contexts than they did.

Maybe I'm saying this because of how red the area is and my own isolation but, I just don't want to deal with people in general. Their ignorance makes me so livid when I consider how we as communists are supposed to be radical democrats at heart. I explain over and over again to some of the people in my life who aren't yet complete soulless monsters (in other words don't view the entire totality of migrants as subhumans), and even if they agree with my ideas, they still end up supporting the far right anyways. If they're still like that as a mass of people, they're wholly incapable of governing themselves and are just leading us into a slow boiling mass extinction event.

I think I finally understand the meaning of a phrase I once though over used, "it's not my job to educate you." I just don't want to deal with these people anymore, nor do I want to even get further involved with people who might be more amenable to class struggle because I know they're either too precarious or lumpenized to do anything about it. At this point, I feel like giving up because I cannot feel much more. Not even anger at those who sit at the top of the class system. I just feel nothing except maybe a spark of rage whenever I see copium from my comrades on the left. The way we talk to dead theorists and leaders can be so macabre sometimes in light of their tragic failures in the short or long term. I just wish we could let them rest in peace.

Maybe this intersects with how I feel my personal life is just so listless. I'm well into adulthood and never met many of those threshold that my parent's generation met. I don't think I will meet those by throwing myself into trying to prop up people who are really complete strangers to me in some political movement.

Idk, I continue on but, I feel somewhat diminished at the moment.

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[–] VaqueroRed@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (9 children)

If you’re having trouble trying to convince people, maybe step back and ask yourself if you’re trying to convince the right kind of people who’s particular life experiences align the most with class warfare. You need to reach out to people who are suffering first, this is our base of support.

The petite bourgeois generally are useless, even with everything that’s happening right now.

[–] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (8 children)

I don't think you can really reach workers either. Workplace density is shit because of automation, nobody wants to step out of line because they have kids they're scared will lose support, and a good chunk of the working class (especially the white ones) can be bought off by just promising to make someone else's life worse than their own.

Frankly, I've concluded the average voter is too stupid to comprehend the totality of the class structure that oppresses them. They want simple and stupid answers to the things that make their lives shit. Often wrapped up in conspiracism by an other.

Like, for example: Why is it getting hot and the weather becoming so severe in parts of the US? Our answer: Capitalist practices causing runaway anthropogenic climate change. The Fascist answer: The weather radar is being used to manipulate the weather. Guess which explanation large swaths of the population are enthralled by. Guess which answer caused a bunch of militia hogs to go and disable a weather radar in Oklahoma.

[–] VaqueroRed@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Having kids is actually more of a reason to organize than you think. The spectre of unemployment is stark and it hangs over every proletarian. Losing your job would mean not being able to provide for your kids. You really ought to be framing action in those terms, protecting the family.

[–] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

That won't work. These people are more afraid of losing their jobs to rock the boat. Hell, they don't even have time to cook healthy meals with the long med shifts they do. I'm not going to put my neck out for a bunch of thoroughly lumpenized strangers.

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