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Defederation is just another form of censorship
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this post was submitted on 19 Aug 2023
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You can say whatever the fuck you want, but other people aren't obliged to listen to it or pass it on.
Talk to the hand.
People aren’t obliged to listen to it but they have no right to prevent other people from seeing or hearing it unless it's stuffs like hate speech and racism
So, you're saying that if I have a conversation with my friend, and I don't let you listen in, THAT'S censorship? You have a problem with not being able to invade my privacy?
Sorry you got kicked out of whatever cool kids club it was, but you were not censored.
The correct analogy would be someone else trying to prevent you from having a conversation with your friend.
If that's the case, then who are you unable to talk to?
People are unable see content from other people that their instance has defederated with. (Yes, you can have an account on multiple instances, but that kind of defeats the point of federation.)
So, the inconvenience of having to go from one openly available source of information to ANOTHER openly available source of information, is the same as an authority figure preventing someone from speaking their own opinions?
If you say so. 🤷🏻♂️
Why should an instance get to choose what its users can read? That feels similar to a government deciding what their citizens can read.
But they aren't. You can go see it.
That's like complaining about not being able to talk to your buddy across the street because you don't want to walk over there. God damn city put this street here and it's standing between me and my conversation!!!
No one is preventing anyone from hearing it. You are free to create an account on those instances and listen to them if you want.
Nobody stopping them from starting their own instance, and federating with everyone else.
It isn't about having something to say and being heard, it's about having nothing to say and forcing people who don't want to listen to listen. They're just pissed off because the fediverse gives people the ability to exercise their right to freedom NOT to associate with them. Trolling isn't fun without a captive audience to torture.
https://gizmodo.com/online-trolls-actually-just-assholes-all-the-time-stud-1847575210
You are also free to join facebook alternative yet people complains about censorship on it and defending it on lemmy. You are just hypocrites
Freedom of speech almost always comes with freedom of association. The thing that many people miss is that freedom of association also allows you to choose NOT to associate with someone just as freedom of religion includes freedom FROM religion. The instances choosing to defederated from the trolls are exercising their right to be free from association with the trolls. No one is stopping the trolls from spewing their nonsense or stopping anyone who wants to listen from listening.