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[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'll take that as a "yes". Thanks for your participation, in the discussion. @K1nsey6@lemmy.world & @AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world So what's your plan? Are you expecting to initiate change by whining on federated social media? Just askin'.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Why don't you actually read my comment since I already told you what I will do.

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Theres an actual document called What Is To Be Done. You might want to check it out instead of asking for other people to do your work.

Whenever a liberal asks, what is the plan? They do that as a thought terminating question because they don't want to hear what the plan is unless it involves their party

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Ah, and so you reference a PDF from 1902 (https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/download/what-itd.pdf) link not provided because you assume I won't bother to look for your reference. Lenin knew, given the magickal crystal ball he possessed, all the way back in 1902 what was going to happen 124 years later? smh. Who is trying to terminate discussion? It seems to be you.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

It's always the libs crying on social media suffering the consequences of their own inaction by voting for the lesser evil and attempting nothing.

Maybe cut the snark, when the problem has already been accurately described in 1870 and you embarrassingly are still in that situation and continuing the clown show that is your 'politics'

Nowhere do "politicians" form a more separate, powerful section of the nation than in North America. There, each of the two great parties which alternately succeed each other in power is itself in turn controlled by people who make a business of politics, who speculate on seats in the legislative assemblies of the Union as well as of the separate states, or who make a living by carrying on agitation for their party and on its victory are rewarded with positions. It is well known that the Americans have been striving for 30 years to shake off this yoke, which has become intolerable, and that in spite of all they can do they continue to stink ever deeper in this swamp of corruption. It is precisely in America that we see best how there takes place this process of the state power making itself independent in relation to society, whose mere instrument it was originally intended to be. Here there exists no dynasty, no nobility, no standing army, beyond the few men keeping watch on the Indians, no bureaucracy with permanent posts or the right to pensions. and nevertheless we find here two great gangs of political speculators, who alternately take possession of the state power and exploit it by the most corrupt means and for the most corrupt ends -- and the nation is powerless against these two great cartels of politicians, who are ostensibly its servants, but in reality exploit and plunder it.*

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Why do I get the feeling you're not being genuine? Like tucker carlson going "I'm just asking questions here."

"Your idea references a document from 1902, therefore it's bad".

[–] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The basic principles have not changed and neither have the parties.

And like I said we are not doing the work for you

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago

You are not doing the work yourself. Referencing a document from 1902, not explaining how it is relevant 124 years later, and not describing anything actionable leads to an inevitable conclusion that you only express these things to feel better about yourself without making a material impact. You have had dozens of replies in this post to explain yourself and you haven't come close.

It doesn't matter if you think you shouldn't do the work for other people. You can't even describe your own point of view.

You can piss on other people, but after being prompted time and again to explain why your view is better you have not. Plain and simple.