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[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well tbf, if all the useless idiots supporting the dem party went elsewhere, say the greens or invent a new one and flock en masse, then that would at least help change things without burning things down. And it has happened before, used to be Rep V Whig, then it was Rep V Dem, then Reps and Dems switched en masse though kept the names when trading sides. Everyone insists it can't again due to vendor lock in that they perpetuate by saying it can't happen again due to vendor lock in, but it totally could if we just y'know stopped eating our own tail and actually tried something different for once.

[–] ViceroTempus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Something else to add to what you're saying is that 36% of the electorate did not vote in 2024, which is par for the course for previous elections as well. Which means in theory a third party could take every vote from non-voters and win without ever "stealing" a Republican's or Democrat's vote.

People just need to stop calling it a wasted vote and disenfranchising potential voters that for one reason or another refuse to vote for either major party.

[–] TrippingBalls@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Vote for the best person. Don't try to pick the winner

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Fascists hate this one easy trick!

Edit to add: your comment is wonderfully succinct and accurately points to the sportslike entertainment atmosphere US politics is saturated with. Thank you

[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You'd need a hell of a platform to be a compelling option to all them non-voters

[–] ViceroTempus@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Having a compelling platform isn't the difficult part. That's actually probably the easiest part of the whole affair.

A real problem is exposure, and it has to be the right kind of exposure. On top of which a single president with absolutely no back up is just an ineffectual figurehead and target. So the third party would need to get out in all races, everywhere, preferably all at once. Oh and they have to fight uphill the whole way just for ballot access, which wraps us back around to exposure.

I guess to me the real hard part is getting apathetic and tired people to fight real hard, for a long time, while also paying for the expenses of the party and their own lives. As it would have no funding from Billionaires, or other moneyed interests, and if it did people would start to suspect the party's motives. Compelling platform is easy by comparison.

[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 2 points 12 hours ago

I think you may have missed my point. I meant that non-voters are not a homogenous mass, and have different desires and prejudices and reasons not to vote. And not to put too fine a point on it, a fair few of them are cunts.