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This is a perfect example for why the UK stopped allowing motorbike police chases. Because whatever crime they've committed, it doesn't justify putting the lives of every other road user and pedestrian at risk. And as another commenter stated the cop was likely doing it for the lulz (and adrenaline rush) as much as the chased.
Ontario stopped chasing motorcycles. We now have unlicensed, uninsured cunts going >200km/hr weaving through traffic. Only a matter of time before they kill themselves. Ontario also has multiple race tracks these assholes will never show up to.
Probably anyone doing that wasn't so worried about police motorcycles chasing them in the first place.
Are there anti-motorcycle measures they could install, like special speedbumps or bollards or something? It'd probably be much more effective than cyclecops.
I feel like we made a safe choice, here.
Most countries are the same. Typically in the US they just let them go and pick them up later if it turns into a chase situation. You have their license plate information, if they moved somewhere else they know who/where they are. So why risk everyonesv lives.
Lol.
The overlap between bikers who run from police and bikers who have a legitimate plate is near nonexistent
These things run in a cycle. There's a high profile chase or two that looks particularly dangerous, there's public outcry, and high speed chases are banned.
The criminals very quickly figure this out, and use it to their advantage by immediately driving like absolute nutters to make the police abandon the chase. There's a public outcry, and the police are once again allowed to chase criminals.
One of the best ones was helmets. The police weren't allowed to ram someone on a motorbike without a helmet, in case they injured them. So all the bag snatchers etc immediately stopped wearing helmets.
It's almost as if a handbag is of less value than human life...
It's not just about those on the motorbike, anyone could be injured or killed in collisions because of high speed chases.
A car may instinctively swerve to avoid collision with one of the bikes and accidentally plough into 2 children crossing the road. Is that justified because somebody lost £200, their phone, drivers licence, a hairbrush, a packet of mints, some old receipts, and a leather handbag?
We've had more time with chases banned than not in recent times because the harms caused by chases significantly outweigh the harms done by petty criminals. Any crime that isn't petty has the full weight of the surveillance state behind it, negating the need for an immediate chase.
So, attempted murder, then?
Luckily, if there's no cops chasing them, these law-flouting crooks will obey all traffic laws, so that problem is averted.
Attempted murder implies intent to kill.
I think it would be difficult to convince any reasonable jury that evading arrest comes with an intention to kill.
Law enforcement, being far more aware of the dangers involved. Being a professional organisation whose remit includes the safety of the populace. Is well funded. Has access to years worth of internal and external studies, and the advice of public and private institutions well versed in sociology, criminology, and road traffic statistics, should, in a fair world, be held liable for any manslaughter charges that occur in such a chase, rather than the chased.
But that doesn't fit with the narrative of "grr, dickhead criminal on motorbike made me feel angry" I guess.
Do you think that crime is a one off thing or something? They'll keep doing it until someone stops them.
Do you think chasing them will stop the next one from doing the same? The funny thing about people is we reproduce! There's new ones of us springing up out of the woodwork all of the time. A constant stream of new potential criminals.
Crime is fixed by societal, political, and economic change. By thinking big picture. Not by throwing adrenaline junkie cops after adrenaline junkie thieves. Not by risking the public's safety, and incurring great expense in fuel, training, wages, insurance, and vehicular wear at the same.
People generally commit crime because of their material conditions. You don't fix a bad guy with a ~~gun~~ bike by using a good guy with a ~~gun~~ bike. You do it by preventing the need for the crime to be committed in the first place. Preventative measures instead of reactive measures. More social workers, less cops.
It's also driven by greed quite often, people wanting easy money.
You will always need law enforcement.
What causes greed in society? How do you prevent people constantly striving for "easy money"?
Could we perhaps change the current economic system which encourages mass hoarding of wealth by a small percentage of the population and desperation and crime for many others?
Something to think about.
I'm sure the UK police will get right on that.
Police Scotland at least, do take a more sociological approach to policing, yes. It's not perfect, and they're not pushing for a change in economic system, but they do push for a different approach to policing compared with most forces around the world. Allowing safe drug consumption buildings, for example. Tackling the causes rather than the symptoms of crime. Working in tandem with social services. Prevention instead of reaction.
Very clever of you! I'm proud of you for using your brain today, learning and thinking about something instead of just jumping straight to your preconceived ideas of crime and punishment in an attempt to "win" a pointless internet argument. Well done! Have a star ⭐
Ive not noticed that cycle.
Police here do an assessment, consider the risks, decide what to do... you know, like professionals
It very much happens in the UK, here in NZ is the same to a lesser extent.
Maybe you need to pay more attention.
LOL.
Maybe you need to stop imagining patterns that confirm your hypothesis.
As you said, the public is unhappy when police are perceived to do nothing, and when police are perceived to cause an accident. Both are potential outcomes of any incident without the existence of any cycle.
Its absurd to suppose the police have a meeting and someone says "people are getting really grumpy that we're letting all the crooks get away so we better start chasing them again".
It's not the police themselves making these decisions, typically elected officials.
So elected official calls the police commissioner and says "hey stop letting all the crooks get away we look silly", and that gets passed all the way down the line without one single person saying, "why don't we just assess each situation and make an intelligent decision as to whether the potential outcomes justify the risks".
Sorry boss, what you're saying just doesn't make any sense.
Are you expecting the actions of elected officials to make sense?
And if you cared enough to pay attention, the rules around police pursuits do change frequently, moving backwards and forwards between permissive and restrictive of allowing chases.
Wouldn't it be easier, cheaper, and safer to follow with a drone? Just keep an eye on them till they stop or run out of gas, and then move in for the arrest.
Excuse my while I take the 45min to get a drone to where it's in range for its 30min battery pack to be useful.
You should write to them and tell them, since you've got this all figured out.