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What commentary stream do you watch with? I saw the one with the F1TV team and they are super knowledgeable.
The official "international" feed from f1 tv
They are knowledgeable but they have the same information we do so when a yellow flag shows up (for example) they seem to have no clue as to what cause it until the tv director decides to show it 5 mins laterโฆ so they find out at the same time we do
Well there's not much anyone can do about that. The FIA is it's own thing, they concern themselves with running the race in a safe manner and with adherence to the rules by all parties. They don't go out of their way to inform the media about what they are doing or why.
There is a data channel where things like yellow flags pop-up right away. That's also what the graphics on screen are based off. As well as the driver tracker that might show someone as being stationary. So everyone knows about the flag right away, but the reasons might only be known to the marshal that called the flag at that specific location.
I think you underestimate what goes into something like an F1 race. The FIA has a huge team that runs the whole thing, with many different departments all working together to make sure we have a proper race. Then there's the main TV feed, which is a huge team as well. They don't just have to switch camera feeds, they have to decide in real time what is worth showing and what the best shot is. They have to coordinate all of the camera operators on what to focus on and the different cable guided flying cams, helicopters and these days drones. Then also cue up replays and show them at the right times, let alone all the picture-in-picture stuff. All this in a hectic race where split second decisions matter. Do they get it right all the time? No, mistakes do happen. And sometimes it's better than other time. But it's a real hard job.
As for F1TV they also have a whole team. They have people listening in to the radio calls, monitoring driver cams, looking at the data and analyzing stuff. They also have boots on the ground doing driver interviews and talking to liaisons in the teams and with the FIA. They are finding out stuff as fast as possible.
But in the case of a yellow flag, say Leclerc outbrakes himself into the run off for the 52th time that session. The team on that marshal post will hit the button and start weaving the flags. The FIA race direction team is notified and other marshal posts before the corner also get notified. So everyone waves their flag. The FIA is dependent on the people at that corner to figure out what is going on and when it's clear again. They will be in contact right away to manage that situation. The people running the TV feed and the commentary see the yellow flag popup on the data feed. The TV team needs to look at what's going on and decide if they have a good shot and if it's worth showing. If the driver does a spin turn they might be gone before they can make that decision. In a practice session this happens all the time. The commentary may say something about it, but chances are it won't be shown on screen. Maybe a replay if there's not much else going on and they have a good shot.
So we're all experiencing this in real time, nobody could know anything sooner. Multiple teams work hard to get the best information available, with available being the key word.
It can get annoying during a red flag where the FIA isn't forthcoming with what they are doing. But they are focused on making sure everything is in order and getting shit done. So I can understand talking to the press is a low priority at that point. And a group of workers inspecting the road or a barrier often tells us enough about what's going on.
What does that have to do with anything? For almost every other major sport, commentators are either on site and/or have a team with them which informs them of additional detail and info as the game takes place. Nobody at NHL headquarters said "hey let's make extra provisions to make sure TSN commentators get an inside track". That happens because the teams prepare to cover the games does a better job.
For F1 is like having an expert buddy come for a visit to watch the race with you, they only know and react to what you see on the main broadcast. There is little value to that after a few years watching when you basically already know what they are going to say about it and they have no additional value/info to offer
Well they may not bother checking because they RARELY say who/what caused a yellow flag until shown on the broadcast. This is specially frustrating for the quick spins where the yellow flag lasts only a few seconds. To boot, the broadcast is getting worse and worse (this year it has been abysmal) so sometimes it takes 10 mins before they actually show what happened "back then"
Well, they do not seem to feed that info back to the commentators AT ALL. For example, in yesterday's race during the red flag, commentators said it could be a Safety Car rolling start OR a stationary start, it was up to the officials to determine... and we all found out what it was when we saw it happening. It does not seem anyone in the reporting team knew what the decision was even though it must have been known a few mins before it happened at the very least
Again, I am NOT talking about the FIA issuing a report to the press, that never happens in any sport in real time.
I am saying that if there is a crash they don't show right away (which makes sense and I know why they do this), I would expect the commentators to say something like "we have a collision between Speed Racer and Driver X, waiting on details" even if it's not shown on the broadcast. Instead we get a "there must be some collision to cause this red flag".
In Hockey for example, a sport where a ton of stuff happens in the blink of an eye, commentators will say "that's a high sticking from X on y" even though we could not see it on TV, we just see some collision between players and the whistle to stop the game. Sure, sometimes it takes a few mins for the replay to show us that but the commentators are well placed (and seem to have bionic eyes) to see what happened and tell us in advance