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[โ€“] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 68 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

They should absolutely ban disposable but as long as they're smart about it and don't try and make it a general vape ban. Anything with a microcontroller and OLED display should need regulation to be "disposable". So fucking wasteful.

Vapes can and have always been something you can pop a battery and cartridge and custom juice in. There's zero reason to make it disposable. Make the coil/cotton/juice cartridge disposable... Like a juul was last I checked? That's reasonable.

And then next regulate how much nicotine can be in per ml. 60mg/ml is fucking insane. That is heart issue level of nicotine. I got buzzed off 12 mg/ml, used 3 or 6mg/ml regularly, and quit at 1.5mg/ml. There's no fucking reason other than harm and addiction to provide 60mg/ml.

[โ€“] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 13 hours ago

Germany only allows 20mg/ml, I didn't know there were countries that allowed 60??? ๐Ÿ˜ญ

[โ€“] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

OLED maybe but small micros are now so cheap and so small that they're negligible.

Battery is probably still the biggest environmental impact.

[โ€“] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

One of those 3 cent one time programmable microcontrollers would be sufficient. Something with enough power to run a web server is just wasteful.

[โ€“] bacon_pdp@lemmy.world 15 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

You do realize that a 1 cent microcontroller has enough RAM, Flash and processing power to be a web server, correct?

[โ€“] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

And the term web server doesn't mean it has to run the whole of AWS. It just means it can deliver some content over http.

[โ€“] Dultas@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Yeah, I doubt it's running more than a couple concurrent connections. Idle web servers take very little resources.

[โ€“] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 6 points 17 hours ago

Getting ever closer to smart dust.

[โ€“] michael_palmer 1 points 18 hours ago

don't try and make it a general vape ban. In some EU contries 10ml liquid costs more than pack of cigarettes, so they defacto banned vaping. how much nicotine can be in per ml. 60mg/ml 20 mg/ml is EU wide limit since 2025