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[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world 31 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I know the saying is "don't mess with Texas" but Texas seems to fuck itself over all the time. I would be raising hell about this if it was my backyard.

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

That's a mistranslation. The originql Chinese is closer to 'do not interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake', but in the american vernacular, you can just say 'don't mess with Texas'.

[–] Impractical_Island@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Any time I think of the art of war, I think of this song:

https://youtu.be/gGYlocT1kOA

[–] calebm@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Pretty sure "Don't mess with Texas" began its life as an anti-littering campaign in the late 80s or early 90s. It has been appropriated to mean all sorts of things, though. The original meaning might be even more relevant to data centers...

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 11 hours ago

No, the EPA just appropriated sun tzu.

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This has nothing to do with any translation of any language, it's a US English expression.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

It is a joke.

They are intimating that texas makes so many mistakes that "Don't mess with texas" may be a blowhard boast to texans, but to everyone else it means "just let the idiots wreck themselves"

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago

Also that 'Texas' is synonymous with 'enemy' for all Americans.

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Still has nothing to do with translating anything from any other language.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

And since they doubled down on it being the actual origin when pressed on it, I don't think they were joking.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 5 hours ago

..it was pretty obviously a shitpost, dude.

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 7 hours ago

Absolutely not. You don't double down on a joke.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I mean... I guess it could mean that now, but that is certainly not what it meant originally or how it was ever used.

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 3 points 11 hours ago

In the most Peggy Hill way possible.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Is "don't mess with Texas" Chinese?

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I just said its a translation. Yes. From sun tzu I think. In england they translate it the other way I said here.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Except the actual phrase didn't originate from whatever Chinese saying you're talking about. It was an anti-littering campaign, from Texas, in the 1980s.

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

No, its from translating 'the art of war' into an american dialect. EPA just appropriated it.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

You got evidence to back that up? Especially since the EPA had nothing to do with the ad campaign?

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, but it would be very personally identifying.

[–] UltraBlack@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

How is a translation of some ancient public work personally identifying

[–] solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 13 hours ago

Thank you for the correct interpretation, I really need to remember that one