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What I don't understand yet is kbin vs a Lemmy instance. I have an account on kbin, and I understand this post comes from a Lemmy instance. So kbin can view posts from Lemmy instances it's connected to. But my understanding is that I couldn't use a Lemmy client with my kbin login. I'm waiting for a beta invite for #Artemis but even when I have that, it sounds like it wouldn't support Lemmy right away. So do I need to also register on a Lemmy instance? And how would I juggle logins?
So federation is like medieval kingdoms. I am a citizen of Kbin so they know me and give me a token. Now I can use this Kbin token to get to any kingdom that let's me in lemmy.world or beehaw. They don't know me but they know that their buddy earnest at the kingdom of Kbin can vouch for me. So they let me in.
So won't need a login at these other places since I can use my Kbin token. So with a single login can work to talk to any who let's me.
If a site is defederated that means two kingdoms are fighting. So the lemmy.world token won't let you into beehaw because they are defederated.
So federation is like medieval kingdoms. I am a citizen of Kbin so they know me and give me a token. Now I can use this Kbin token to get to any kingdom that let's me in lemmy.world or beehaw. They don't know me but they know that their buddy earnest at the kingdom of Kbin can vouch for me. So they let me in.
So won't need a login at these other places since I can use my Kbin token. So with a single login can work to talk to any who let's me.
If a site is defederated that means two kingdoms are fighting. So the lemmy.world token won't let you into beehaw because they are defederated.
Artemis is supposed to support kbin and Lemmy. If it doesn't support Lemmy right away, then it wouldn't help to register on a Lemmy instance, because Artemis still wouldn't support Lemmy.
You're right that you can't sign into a Lemmy instance with your kbin credentials. Each site is it's own site. If something is posted on lemmy.world, it sends a notice to kbin.social and kbin.social fetches the info and publishes it locally on kbin as well. Comments on the kbin post are sent back to lemmy.world. There's basically a copy of the post and comments on every server. Not every server will "know" about every other server though, so content could push across the entire federated network slowly sometimes.
Hi, I'm participating from kbin.social.
Your account doesn't follow you across different websites, but rather you can see and interact with everything using your own instance as a window. (Except initial growing pains)
Because kbin.social and lemmy.world are federated, my local view of the thread is here
https://kbin.social/m/reddit@lemmy.world/t/124934/Lemmy-is-confusing-and-poorly-limited-How-does-Lemmy-work#comments
And on the other hand there's likely local pages for plenty of magazines (communities) on kbin from your perspective, too
You can build a website using WordPress. You can build a website using Joomla. You can build a website using Drupal. You can even use an RSS plugin to import posts from a Joomla blog into a totally different WordPress blog.
That is, in very simplified terms, what's going ok with kbin and Lemmy. You can build a content aggregator with Lemmy. You can build one with kbin. You can import content from one to another.
But they're different bits of software, and they have different 3rd party compatibilities.
since kbin is just lemmy + mastodon it's been my main, but I got a lemmy account to check out the apps.
"instance" is just a fancy name for "website". if you have an account on kbin.social you can't login to your kbin.social account on lemmy.world. it's like email. your gmail account can email a yahoo address, but you can't login to your gmail account from yahoo.
Some mobile apps exist to let you login to lemmy sites, but those won't work with your kbin account.