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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by w8l@kbin.social to c/ArtemisApp@kbin.social

Advisory:
Please do not harass anybody who was involved in Artemis, no matter what. Everyone’s got their own lives going on and nobody knows the full extent behind actions or lack thereof. If any does occur, we vehemently condemn it without question.

Let’s get straight to the point:
@Lilkev and I (@w8l) are formally stepping down as moderators of the Artemis app communities (Discord, Matrix, and kbin), due to a lack of communication from project lead and founder @hariette.

Many people in the Artemis community have been patient and understanding of the lack of activity, ever since a prior period of radio silence was justified by Hariette saying that she was recovering from chronic pain. However, this has gone on for long enough that the official Artemis Camp instance has failed over and never recovered. This is a problem for Artemis app users, since it is the only instance that is supported. We are also unable to continue performing our duties as moderators in the Camp instance as a result. This effectively means that the entire project is dead.

We also want to deeply apologise for not pushing open-sourcing the application code sooner. The original rationale for not doing so immediately (according to Hariette) was a fear of showing poor quality code in public. In hindsight, bad quality code in the open would’ve been preferable to nothing at all; this would’ve allowed the app to continue in some form in an event like this. And even if the project remained active, the code quality would’ve likely improved with contributions anyways.

Multiple attempts at communication from us and the rest of the OG squad, both publicly and privately, have occurred with the founder to no avail.

We advise moving to directly using kbin or mbin on web, using Lemmy with its many clients, or supporting Lunar for iOS. Lunar is a Lemmy client currently in the process of implementing support for the kbin/mbin API and is already open-source, so it is considerably less likely to meet the same fate as Artemis. There is a kbin community for Lunar at m/lunar on the main kbin instance.

The journey was great while it lasted, but all journeys come to an end. We hope to see you all somewhere else, on some other day…

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[-] minnieo@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

thanks for your dedication and effort to artemis and kbin, guys. you were and continue to be amazing.

i think during the reddit thing, everyone went in head strong and confident, pouring lots of time into this, including myself, you guys, hariette. we wanted it to succeed so bad. then it seems many got burnt out, or bored, and started to distance, including myself. i can understand why hariette may have effectively left. i mean, she started something huge that required lots of time, dedication, and management from herself and others she brought on board. maybe she didn't realize how much it might take, and when her passion began to falter, so did her will to manage all this and she just isolated from it, ive sadly done that before when i got overwhelmed and burnt out. or maybe its something else entirely? who knows. but either way, there's still an obligation to communicate with the very people who were onboard beside you, to let them know how you're feeling and what might happen to the project, because you guys also dedicated your time to this, and your time matters too. no matter what happened, you were owed an explanation and open communication.

really sorry to hear this guys. you deserved better. thank you again for your effort and time.

[-] ernest@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

who knows. but either way, there's still an obligation to communicate with the very people who were onboard beside you, to let them know how you're feeling and what might happen to the project, because you guys also dedicated your time to this, and your time matters too.

Sometimes, that's the hardest part of coming back, believe me. But we still don't know exactly what happened, and I hope it will be clarified sooner or later, whether it's the definitive end or not. Life has taught me to be very patient, and if there's a chance, this time it will be my priority to help Hariette bring Artemis back to life, as it's truly a great app and a piece of a cool story ;)

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