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I don’t think I’m a communist or socialist.
If they’re able to copy my blood without depriving me of it, they’re welcome to it.
And FOSS is usually free as in beer so I don’t really see the comparison.
Edit: if we had free healthcare in the US I wouldn’t be making this argument.
Well healthcare is never free, you pay through your taxes. But i stand by the notion that lemmyists are usually anticapitalist so it's pretty funny to get angry about being asked to help people out of the goodness of our hearts.
I've never heard 'free as in beer' as a phrase, what does that mean?
I should clarify.
When speaking of free healthcare, I mean “free at the point of service”.
I know damn well it’s not free as in beer but I can see how my putting those two concepts so close in my comment could give the wrong impression.
I have free, at the point of service, healthcare, and blood donations are still unpaid. No buying body parts or something... It's a gift and it must be entirely voluntary. Did you think people could sell their blood in civilised countries?
Your way is how it SHOULD be.
I feel like you’re missing the fact that in the US the blood bank sells our freely given blood to hospitals.
Those hospitals then charge us for the blood when we need it.
We sell plasma. Why not blood?
If hospitals wanna be a business, expect to pay for inputs.
What other business expects their inputs for free?
I feel like you're missing the fact that people donate blood to help others. Being angry about the fucked up system you're in is sensible, refusing to help others because of that system is just sad.
We need to be paid because we can't afford healthcare. I haven't been to the dentist in over 20 yrs.
"Free as in beer" means free of monetary cost. This is used to contrast the case of "Free as in speech," meaning you have the legal right to do something. These two don't necessarily come together; you may remember the term "shareware" meaning proprietary copyrighted software which end users are encouraged to copy and pass along, essentially doing the company's marketing work for them. Video game demos were often shareware. This was free as in beer, but not free as in speech.
So let's talk about the mercenary attitude toward blood donation you're seeing in this thread, in the context of a largely left-leaning community: I want to live in a world where healthcare is provided as a public service funded by taxes, and I want rich people fairly taxed. I would be willing to volunteer such things as blood donations in such a system. That's not the system that exists in America at the moment; hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, ambulance services etc. are run as for-profit businesses. So I'm being asked to "be a good little socialist and subsidize my third mansion out of the good of your heart." No. In today's world, fuck you, pay me.
It's Richard Stallmans thing about software freedom, he always says free software is free as in freedom not just free as in beer (i.e. physically free, no cost to buy it)
We all like a beer that doesn't cost us anything but if we can't take that beer where we went, copy that beer, share it with our friends, modify it and profit from it then it's not really free.