Comrades is it childish to stand up for your morals? (Cw: liberal cringe, attempted vote shaming) : memes

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 103 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

Can you take a stand against genocide? No

Can you stop funding Israel? No

Can you stop sending arms to Israel? No

Can you stop illegally occupying Palestine? No

Can we put homeless people in unused homes? No

Can you do disaster relief? No

Can COVID tests be affordable? No

Can the price of food go down? No

Can there be a jobs guarantee? No

Can the hiring process be regulated? No

Can AI be regulated? No

Can library budgets increase? No

Can you stop torturing people at the boarder? No

Can we get bail reform? No

Can drugs be legal? No

Can we have high speed rail? No

Can we expand public transportation in general? No

Can we break up big tech? No

Can anything be done about the literacy rate? No

Can billionaires be made to pay tax? No

Can copyright be reformed? No

Can I get healthcare? No

Can you fix infrastructure? No

Can you fight climate change? No

Can you protect LGBT? No

Can you keep abortion legal? No

Can you do something about the supreme court? No

Can you stop violence against immigrants? No

Can you help struggling minorities? No

Can you help struggling majority? No

Can you increase labor protections? No

Can you help unions? No

Can you stop war? No

Can you make city design better? No

Can I ever afford a house? No

Can you make student debt less ridiculous? No

Can you stop creating conflict with China? No

Can you keep a campaign promise? No

Can you help with spiraling rent costs? No

Can you help put the cost of living in line with salaries? No

Can you stop exploiting the third world? No

Any social safety nets? No

Stop underfunding government programs before privatizing them? No

Arts and athletics in schools? No

Reduce violence in schools? No

Defund the police? No

[–] un_mask_me@hexbear.net 45 points 9 months ago

It's so exhausting

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 33 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Best we can do is open containers in New York during happy hour. That way, you can enjoy your martini on the go!"

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago

Cheers I'll drink to that

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 30 points 9 months ago

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago

Smh you whiny leftists don't let perfect be the enemy of good. You're willing to hand the presidency to a fascist Cheeto, just because you disagree with Kamala on this one little issue!

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

no candidate is perfect, you shouldn't let trump win just because they don't check a few boxes. they're entitled to your vote

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 80 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

A complete misuse of the meme format, a dogshit take, and they can't even finish the meme without frothing at the mouth over leftists who refuse to endorse genocide. Peak lib shit.

[–] threethan@reddthat.com 73 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Alternatively, a perfect use of the format. The guy in the second panel is basically space Hitler

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 52 points 9 months ago

you-got-me-there

[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 29 points 9 months ago

it's perfect

[–] radio_free_asgarthr@hexbear.net 63 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh, yeah, this is a democracy. But your vote doesn't mater for most issues. You have to have genocide and war mongering, no sufficient action on climate change, etc. Your vote is only deciding between Republicans and polite Republicans. You stupid child, how dare you think your vote should have input in terms of what the government does.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 26 points 9 months ago

I love how in one breath liberals will scream "voting matters! Republicans want to make it illegal" then in the next breath post memes like this where voting doesn't matter and you're simply ticking a box, but that's a good thing because what are you a child?

Bluemaga really is the most apt poltical term of the last decade

[+] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 9 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

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[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 24 points 9 months ago

Yeah pretty much.

[–] JayTreeman@hexbear.net 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

OK. I'm a fan of the comic. There's a fascist villain that's going to be introduced, but the dad isn't it. The dad's character explores, for a bit, the trauma that following orders blindly can bring about.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What's the name of the comic?

[–] JayTreeman@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Invincible Written by Robert Kirkman. He also wrote the comic 'the walking dead'. There was a tv show loosely based on it. Invincible is his love letter to super hero comics. He acknowledges tropes and then plays with them. It's a lot of fun when it's not dealing with heavy subjects.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 9 months ago

Thanks

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[–] Sinister@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well he is from a race of immortal übermensch Nietzschean imperialist that infiltrate and take over planets but he gets an redemption arc because muh wife and kids

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[–] anaesidemus@hexbear.net 6 points 9 months ago

at the time of that dialog, yes

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 37 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Childish: Accepting that the current system is insufficient and a massive undertaking is necessary if you have any morals whatsoever even if you personally aren't affected right now.

Mature: fuck you, got mine, I'm entitled to your vote 🍷

Childish: Listening to the argument to vote for a candidate who checks none of your boxes and deciding that this time enoughs enough, because that lizard is committing a genocide.

Mature: Upon hearing the long list of reasons people won't vote for your candidate, shut your ears and claim they require a perfect candidate who will create world peace.

Childish: Remembering the many promises the Dems have broken and requiring some sort of actual guarantee they will take action.

Mature: football-lucy football-charlie-brown

Childish: Having a memory that's longer than four years

Mature: This is the most important election of our lifetime!

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I always say the maturity cult in western society is just fetish. Ultimately it have little to do with actual maturity and more with conforming to capitalist society and being good drone.

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Relatedly the constant talk of "nuance" which is also just a way to whitewash the shitty system we have, without actually providing any nuance (the nuance right now is that Israelis are committing a genocide, but the palestinians sometimes throw rocks at the soldiers killing them, so its not so black and white again).

Real maturity isn't to do fuckall and real nuance would be to applaud hamas despite their fucked up politics.

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 37 points 9 months ago

no one's asking for world peace, although leftists acknowledge U.S. role in most of the conflicts.

The weapons used to kill Palestinians are mainly U.S. made, that's the problem, the problem is centered on the U.S. and the role its President plays, not some lack of world peace.

[–] 2812481591@hexbear.net 36 points 9 months ago

I dunno, guys. I only have the energy to vote in one election, and I have a feeling like the election after this one is going to be the most important election of our lifetime.

[+] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 31 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago

Also what a ridiculous strawman; it's literally America sending billions of dollars in weapons WILLINGLY to Israel; world peace would require other nations with any power to stop contributing to conflict (even though ironically it's us behind many of the world's conflicts), for Israel it's literally as simple as a call from the president and telling them to stop unless they want to end up like Libya, and to stop sending arms.

What a very childish strawman. How did our navy end up in (failed) conflict with the Houthis? They didn't magically teleport there, we sent them there.

If libs were acting in good faith, they'd yell at Kamala to STFU every time she defends Israel; in fact why don't they do that? If they're being intellectually honest, yell at her during her public speeches when she defends Israel to STFU; don't they want her to win? They should tell her to at least stop standing up for them and hurting her chances.

What utterly dishonest people.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Liberals really are braindead with these kinds of takes, if policies don't matter then voting for Trump is equally as valid as voting for Harris

But then liberals screech "hIs pOlIcIies!!!" and when you point out Harris has equal or worse policies then Trump, suddenly its "policies don't matter, your voting for president not world peace"

Liberals don't believe in anything so their entire politics has to center around whatever power demands and how they can consume more comfortably

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago

The Kingdom of Conscience will be exactly as it is now. Moralists don't really have beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded. Centrism isn't change -- not even incremental change. It is control. Over yourself and the world. Exercise it. Look up at the sky, at the dark shapes of Coalition airships hanging there. Ask yourself: is there something sinister in moralism? And then answer: no. God is in his heaven. Everything is normal on Earth.

[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

death to america

[–] miz@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago

of course

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

IF YOU DON'T vote FOR 98% HITLER YOU'RE SUPPORTING 99% HITLER UNCONDITIONALLY jokah-messy

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And once 98% Hitler is in office she pulls off a mask and reveals she's actually 101% hitler

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If hitler was a brat

[–] Cammy@hexbear.net 1 points 9 months ago

Bratworst

[–] Cammy@hexbear.net 26 points 9 months ago

I'd rather be a child than support genocide in the name of pragmatism.

[+] footfaults@hexbear.net 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

and that's the message we deliver to little kids and expect them not to know what electoralism is

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 6 points 9 months ago

Hey it worked for Hillary! (Like the average democrat my memory only goes back four years, but I just saw that tweet about future president, so I guess she was one once)

[–] edge@hexbear.net 24 points 9 months ago

"The neat part"

[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 9 months ago

Scratch a liberal

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago

Well at least now they can drop that bullshit about "less genocide than trump"

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago

They say this then justify their disastrous interventions or weasel their way into why they aren't as involved and shit. Disingenuous people

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

Liberals make an argument for voting Dems that wouldn't also justify voting for Hitler challenge [IMPOSSIBLE]

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

Omni-man is literally a colonizer... fitting that they identify with him so strongly.

[–] iie@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

electing a president to do what