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[-] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 86 points 4 weeks ago

The media just assumes Americans are too lazy to bother to listen to what was actually said. Trump is 1,000% correct here and in no way is this some sort of “threat” to Liz Cheney. War hawks like her and John Bolton love to bray for war but it’s not them who are taking bullets.

[-] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

He's correct because he knows how to measure the temperature of the room (aka most Americans, most PEOPLE, do not like or support "war" generically. It has to be repackaged, propagandized, and sometimes done covertly to convince enough people to not care or accept it as necessary and support it)

The problem is (and not saying you did this) people hear him shit on Liz Cheney, Dick Cheney, Bolton, even Biden/Harris, etc. and they leap to this false conclusion that Trump is actually anti-war and not just speaking the words we (almost everyone not invested in Raytheon and shit) want to hear.

In some hyper specific scenarios Trump was less pro-war, but in other ways he was just setting the inevitable conditions for war to break out (for example in Palestine by continuing to encourage a Saudi-Israeli alliance without regard to the fate of Palestinians).

So, again, not saying you said or meant that. But I do hear and see some of the most annoying hoglets online saying that all the time. If Trump was anti-war he wouldn't have just fired Bolton from his job he'd have fired him from a cannon directly into Tehran so they can prosecute him for all his various thousands of crimes. Or send him to Venezuela.

Maybe send Hillary, Pelosi and Biden on a trip to Beijing with a little phone call to Xi while they're en route that he gives his blessing to arrest them and prosecute.

I actually wish Trump would do this shit because not only would it be hilarious and deserved by the "victims" (most of the politicians especially the national level ones deserve this in some way or another) but it would be actually, literally, "anti-war" as in removing the warhawk pieces of shit. He'd probably be the most popular president ever with normal people too and absolutely despised by the media and also the "deep state." Ironic that he claims to want to drain the swamp, yet never even tried. I hope he does try! (Although this is prime "monkey's paw" territory... Bolton lands in Iran around some anti-IRGC dissidents and manages to pull on old CIA adjacent ties in the region to organize them and overthrow the current government there and Bolton is made the new Shah...)

[-] Midnight_Pearl@hexbear.net 30 points 4 weeks ago

and their assumption is right

[-] Lussy@hexbear.net 77 points 4 weeks ago

“Let’s put her with the rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her. OK, let’s see how she feels about it. You know, when the guns are trained on her face.”

When the shittiest person you know is just spitting bars

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 50 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

That kinda stuff is why he won in '16
He's a stupid piece of shit, but at least he doesn't have decorum or pretend it's not about empire and money. In a just world he would be in a pit. But all the other politicians run around thinking about decorum and civility and triangulators and hemm and haww, and then there's Trump who has figured out that if you call Ted Cruz a nasty weirdo shitbag, then people will like that, because that's what we would do. At least he somewhat resembles a human being.
Libs will hear him say this and gasp and look around the room waiting for everybody else to gasp too. "Can you imagine she should face consequences for being terrible? And he's terrible too! Doesn't he know that?"

Edit: Shane Gillis has a bit about the first debate with Trump which is pretty descriptive.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 19 points 4 weeks ago
[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 61 points 4 weeks ago

Trump as the "peace" candidate is proof that the demiurge is trying to punish us specifically for its twisted, indiscernible reasons.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 19 points 4 weeks ago

I don't believe Trump is going to bring peace to Gaza, but on the very bizarre off chance that he does (he won't)....I mean I'll be celebrating but I'll also enjoy rubbing it in Libs' faces that their chosen candidate and her predecessor were absolute vampires and they can't even use Trump to say they were the lesser vampires.

But he won't. Neither of these candidates will bring peace to Gaza and/or justice down on the Israeli government.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 9 points 4 weeks ago

It's funny they call him a peace candidate when he wants a war with China and Iran.

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 5 points 4 weeks ago

The bar is descending below the galactic plane and appears to be picking up speed.

[-] joaomarrom@hexbear.net 54 points 4 weeks ago
[-] Midnight_Pearl@hexbear.net 50 points 4 weeks ago
[-] Midnight_Pearl@hexbear.net 54 points 4 weeks ago

like shit, if he promised to put either of the cheneys in front of a firing squad, i actually would vote for his senile ass

[-] miz@hexbear.net 45 points 4 weeks ago

I would be sorely tempted but he promised to lock up Hillary and didn't do it, so ultimately I would not even if he promised this. but I would applaud it

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 14 points 4 weeks ago

Seriously his most disappointing unfulfilled campaign promisesicko-wistful

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[-] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 48 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Full quote:

She's a radical war hawk. Let's put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, okay? Let's see how she feels about it, you know, when the guns are trained on her face. You know, they're all war hawks when they're sitting in Washington in a nice building saying, "Oh gee, we'll—let's send, uh, let's send 10,000 troops right into the mouth of the enemy."

When he's right, he's right...but let's not give him too much credit. Right after the "if it were up to her we'd be in 50 different countries" quote, he says,

You know, it used to be you go to war, "to the victor belong the spoils," right? In other words if you beat a country you own that country, you take the oil, you... We go to war, we bomb the crap out of it, then we leave. You know, it's almost like, what are we doing? What, what's going on we, we bombed the whole Middle East and then we left. What did we get? We got nothing.

More importantly, though, in the midst of his 15 minute rambling answer to Tucker's question (which was simply "Is it weird for you to see Liz Cheney [...] running against you with Kamala Harris?" lmao) we've got the obligatory Trump talking about big strong guys (starts at 2:14:26)

I had two people, Secret Service guys, both extremely rough...guys... One was like a karate champion, one was a weightlifter. [...talks about how someone accused him of putting them in a chokehold...] to think that I would be taking on two nice young guys, simultaneously!

Dude love his big tough guys, I can't fault him for that

edit: here's a transcript if anyone wants to peruse it (much easier to read than the YouTube auto captions that don't have capitalization or punctuation)

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 26 points 4 weeks ago

Was he actually suggesting we should've pillaged the places we invaded? I mean we pillaged it for the corporations, considering we destroyed Iraq and then made them pay American companies with their own wealth to fix it.

[-] LeninsBeard@hexbear.net 15 points 4 weeks ago

Trump has flip flopped on basically every opinion that he has except his love for big strong dudes, hell yeah.

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[-] RustyVenture@hexbear.net 45 points 4 weeks ago

We really don't have to hand it to him, but honestly, whether we go by the actual context of his ramblings or the one libs keep dreaming up, it shouldn't matter when these murderous creeps are involved. Send the Cheneys and Boltons to the front or send them to the wall. Either way, justice will have been done.

[-] BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 39 points 4 weeks ago

Imagine telling a liberal in 2008 that the DNC would be using an endorsement from the Cheneys as a campaign strategy for their 2024 candidate. It would sound absurd beyond reason. And yet, here we are.

[-] RustyVenture@hexbear.net 14 points 4 weeks ago

Liberals oppose every war except the current one, etc.

I have no doubt they'd find a way to square that circle in their minds. "Cheney might not be perfect, but we have to stop Palin from being one heartbeat away from the presidency!!!!"

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 38 points 4 weeks ago

CNN had Jim "crying wojak" Acosta on this morning gnashing his teeth about this saying Trump wants to shoot her.

let-them-fight

[-] miz@hexbear.net 37 points 4 weeks ago

[Trump wins Michigan by 8 points]

speech-side-small-r-1 How could this have happened? speech-side-small-r-2 top-cop

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 37 points 4 weeks ago

If a regular citizen said this they would be tried on terror charges. Totally normal nation

[-] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 36 points 4 weeks ago

Honestly it shows both how hypocritical the law in the imperial core always is, and how farcical and removed from any sense of human decency or public interest it is as well.

I still stand by that no one should support Trump nor Harris (and those who do are complicit in genocide) but he's 100000% right on this one.

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 24 points 4 weeks ago

Trump says so much inflammatory and treasonous shit if democrats were actually serious people, they could have him executed.

Like Clinton is still a former first lady and therefore gets lifetime protection from the secret service. In 2016 when Trump was threatening her, she would have been within her rights to have him brought up on charges. If I said the stuff Trump was saying, but about Michelle Obama or Barbara Bush, a SWAT team would kick in my door guns blazing, kill everything that moves.

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 28 points 4 weeks ago
[-] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 25 points 4 weeks ago

Hate it when a ***** I don’t like slays

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 25 points 4 weeks ago

Isn't it illegal for the average person to say that, and for them to then find themselves being investigated by whichever governmental institution? I mean he's not wrong but surely that's got to meet with consequences considering he's not currently the president.

[-] Antiwork@hexbear.net 22 points 4 weeks ago

How will ol' Donnie wiggle out of this jam.

[-] Rom@hexbear.net 22 points 4 weeks ago

It's only illegal if you're poor

[-] Nationalgoatism@hexbear.net 22 points 4 weeks ago

He's not wrong

[-] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 20 points 4 weeks ago

TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUE

[-] HoiPolloi@hexbear.net 18 points 4 weeks ago

That's true for basically every western politician.

[-] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 13 points 4 weeks ago
[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 11 points 4 weeks ago

Where's the lie?

[-] TheRealChrisR@hexbear.net 7 points 4 weeks ago

We should make a subreddit (yea i dont know what we refer to the subs as here) thats just worst person you know made a great point face

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