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Yeah, both sides amiright?

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[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 130 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks, Uncommitted Assholes.

[-] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 72 points 2 weeks ago

I loved having people arguing with me and saying "At least my conscience is clear."

How's your conscience now??? Still feeling good about your decision?

[-] ech@lemm.ee 38 points 2 weeks ago

They think they get to wipe their hands of it because they "didn't participate", refusing to concede that said choice still counts as their participation. Through ignorance, cruelty, and/or privilege, they'll blame everyone else for the state of the world while refusing to do their part.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

Howard Zinn - you can't be neutral on a moving train. The Enlightened Centrists (TM) always look like suuuuuch dipshits when they talk about "both sides".

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[-] Venator@lemmy.nz 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

"bUt i VoTeD iNdEpEnDaNt"

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[-] neanderthal@lemmy.world 104 points 2 weeks ago

Well, to all the folks arguing with me on how voting for Harris was bad because of Gaza: CONGRATULATIONS! You REALLY made a point there. The Palestinians had a chance under Harris. Instead of voting for a chance for the Palestinians, you did nothing or voted for genocide. You did it from the other side of the world, where you won't have to suffer the consequences.

[-] Kraiden@kbin.earth 75 points 2 weeks ago

"A vOTe fOR hARriS iS a VoTE FoR gENociDe"

Fucking morons

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 28 points 2 weeks ago

Fucking Russians. Fixed it for you.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)
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[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's not genocide if they aren't people.

--Trump, Probably

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[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 67 points 2 weeks ago

giving putin a free pass at ukraine will be after lunch, then?

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

He's not sure, he's still waiting on orders from Putin.

Putin isn't waiting, he apparently started amassing troops within a day of the election.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 56 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Can we not use Fox News, please? They legally argued in court they are strictly entertainment and no reasonable person would believe them. In other words, they are literal propaganda.

But yeah, I hope the smug voters that sat this election out are happy...

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[-] Bookmeat@lemmy.world 54 points 2 weeks ago

Let's be real. The Zionists in charge are Nazis and there was never a path out of genocide in these elections.

[-] SquatDingloid@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago

It's also part of the evangelical grifter prophecy that the Jews be in control of all of old Isreal before the apocalypse starts.

Trump will dismantle this country and the Christians will cheer it on as society circles the drain because the version of their book that was rewritten in the 70s says so.

It will at least be funny to see them all realize that the "rapture" probably already happened and they're all still here XD

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[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 43 points 2 weeks ago

Boy those pro-Palestine folks that didn't vote for Kamala to protest her stance on the genocide sure did own the Democrats. I'm sure they're super happy about helping get Trump back in office and aren't at all upset about the leopards gnawing off their entire heads.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago

Where my “Democrats are evil genocide people” posters now?

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

Right here. Republicans being worse doesn't excuse selling weapons for an ongoing genocide. Democrats never should have done that. And it got you nothing. You supported genocide for nothing.

I think a lot of the hostility here is because centrists are mad that trump is going to be able to take credit for the complete implementation of their only policy.

[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 weeks ago

Russians don't need to make them anymore.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Democrats should never have supported genocide. Am I a Russian?

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[-] Krono@lemmy.today 15 points 2 weeks ago

I'm right here. Democrats are still evil for supporting a genocide, and your "lesser of two evils" logic continues to make us more evil.

What do you think of the 30 days the Democrats gave Israel to improve the humanitarian situation by measurable metrics? Israel failed every metric, but the Democratic administration ignores the results and continues to ship weapons to the genocidal regime.

What do you think of the dozens of international doctors who have been to Gaza saying they saw children with single gunshot wounds to the head almost everyday? Reports are widespread that israeli snipers are intentionally killing 100s of children each month.

What do think of Israels recent use of small arms drones? After an American/Israeli bomb destroys a civilian building, a dozen small drones swarm the area. These drones fire small cube-shaped projectiles with the force to pierce skin and break bones, using AI to target any human in the designated area. They are deadly accurate and fast, firing 3 at the head, 3 at the chest, and 3 at the groin. Doctors say these projectiles are especially hard to fish out of the bodies of the child victims as they rarely exit the body, instead they bounce around causing more internal damage.

Suggesting that the people upset about an ongoing genocide are just going to forget about it due to electoral politics is disgusting, and you should feel ashamed.

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Why are americans so fuckin dumb? Instead of pointing their fingers at millions of trump voters, they are pointing it at people with empathy for having anti-genocider stance.

It feels like they are just interested in finding a scapegoat to blame rather than asking the real questions, why did so many people voted for trump? Did kamala, despite having more funding, failed to convey her plan? What happened and why it happened and how can it be avoided?

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[-] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

Did anyone tell the Palestinians that this would have been the same and to not worry? We had brave, brave people who sat on their hands and did nothing in their name, so I hope they're grateful for their "sacrifice."

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[-] jumperalex@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago

Time for the 2nd stage of FAaFO for all those that fucked around.

No both sides were not equally bad choices for trying to stop the slaughter of non-combatants.

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[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Currently, U.S. restrictions include an embargo on a certain weapons shipment and limitations on various combat-related equipment,

Read the article?

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[-] raynethackery@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago

I know this is a disgusting thought but, assuming there are ever free elections in the United States again, Gaza won't be an issue in 2028. Palestine will just be a memory.

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[-] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 24 points 2 weeks ago

What restrictions?, the article doesnt mention any, Bidens ultimatum came and went with no action.

Both sides were for unconditional aid to Israel, kamala may have added some laments about loss of life but she repeatedly said restrictions on military were off the table. Until someone can point to me a concrete policy that kamala had in her platform that was different from trump then yeah both sides are equally bad on this issue. Trump is worse on a lot of others but to a Palestinian they are both bad.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 weeks ago

The article has a vague statement trying to make it sound like there were lots of restrictions, but I think it's just the 2000 lb. bombs, and maybe some sort of guidance system (IIRC). Because it's a fucking Fox News article for some reason.

Currently, U.S. restrictions include an embargo on a certain weapons shipment and limitations on various combat-related equipment, even if they do not involve explosive ordnance.

Allowing them is definitely more bad, but it's going from like 95% of maximum complicity to 100%.

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[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

There are no restrictions to lift, but I guess it makes a good sound bite, even if its utter nonsense.

https://www.reuters.com/world/no-us-conditions-security-assistance-israel-austin-says-2023-10-12/

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[-] mlg@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

Me trying to find the restrictions in question just like me trying to find Biden's red line and also just like me trying to find Blinken's endzone and also me trying to find the consequences of Israel's actions for the past 13 months.

What a joke lol

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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 17 points 2 weeks ago

The Democrats aren't in power anymore, Palestine is saved! /s

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[-] Questy@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Wait, the ~14,000 dead children complied with American restrictions? The damaging or destruction of over 80% of all structures in Gaza was within restrictions? Interesting. It's honestly going to be tough for the victims of genocide to tell the difference. It actually may benefit Israel's victims since America is likely to massively lose influence in the world with the clown car pulling into Washington. Many nations who likely want to push back against the genocide are under huge American pressure to stay silent and complicit, hopefully as America loses influence that could change.

Not saying that will occur, just an opinion.

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