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[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

American leftists, perhaps. The vast majority of the developed world wants nothing to do with guns, on either side.

Even then, I don't think that this is necessarily true. I'd probably swap that part with free healthcare, as it's something that's equally true across the world.

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[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I just want to live on mountain, make LSD and moonshine, and tweek out playing video games where you build shit.

But someone says they "own" the mountain. How do you own a mountain? They didn't build it. They were forced to be born on this planet just like me. Just another human full of blood and made of meat.

So I guess I'm stuck in this basement instead, forced to live in this "civilization". Doesn't seem very civilized to me that's for sure.

Maybe next life.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Leftist here: I swear to fuck if I hear one more Tankie put a "Trump winning is actually a good thing because Kamela's literally the same person as Trump" card on the table with a "Actually North Korea is this amazing paradise and EVERYONE ON THE FUCKING PLANET is just pretending it's awful. Source: Trust me bro!" stat booster

So help me God I will.... Roll my eyes and drown my sorrows in another round of Dead By Daylight where I hope to find a Joshua in the lobby because I'm a Killer Main...

Seriously, why can't we have unity like the Rightists do? I mean they just point and say "Look! It's a gay!", they all form in a line.

If I point and say "Look! It's a fascist!", the whole squad starts pointing at each other and somehow I'm "cancelled for being a rape apologist" because the way I pointed was actually a dog whistle because it vaguely resembled the ancient Anti-Black symbol called "Ligma" popularized in the year 19Dickety2 in response to white men being annoyed that black people could afford chewing gum or something... Which obviously everyone totally knows is a real thing!

I just want us to ya know, save the fucking world from Neolibs and Literal Nazis before we start doing purity tastes on each other. Like, can we wait to do the "Everyone in the group gets chronic backstab syndrome." shit AFTER we win?

I mean fuck the Deadly Alliance had the fucking patience to wait till they killed the main cast, Raiden included, before that shit.. and they're literally Shang Tsung and Quan Chi, the exact two people I expect to constantly lose Among Us by reporting each other when they're both the Imposter! In a SELF-REPORT! Because I'm reliving all of my negative experiences with other socialists, and when I'm angry I try to make the nerdiest references I can make while still ensuring there's a chance for others to get them.

starts frothing, dies of self-inflicted rabies

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I haven't seen anyone say Trump winning is a good thing, nor have I seen anyone say the DPRK is a paradise (closest to that is people saying the DPRK has living standards around the level of Cuba these days). Where are you finding these people at significant enough numbers to cause you anguish? Legitimate question here, you're calling for Left Unity but it seems like you're misframing others at best, which goes against that ideal.

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[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

As a Leftist there are a few types of leftists I hate

  • Fake Leftists: People who think Socialism is when "government does stuff" and they just want the government to do everything
  • Ignorant Leftists: People who blindly hate capitalism but make no real attempt to look into leftist theory
  • "Anti-imperalists": People who support "anti-imperialism" by supporting the other empire. These people will blindly support Russia, China, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, the Taliban, Assad's Syria, HTS, and occasionally blatant terrorism.
  • Aesthetic "Leftists": People who see leftism as nothing more than an aesthetic which they can use. They make no real attempt to understand leftism but rather then simply being ignorent they actively attempt to subvert the term. These people will say "leftism just means left of center" and use that to justify Capitalism, western imperialism, and other very non leftist ideals under the justification that "leftism has no hard definition" (it does).
[-] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

the worst by any margin are the leftist gatekeepers ! I hate those guys, they're not real leftists

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Aesthetic “Leftists”

Absolutely infuriating. These are people who spend a lot of time on discord, closely nurturing a group of diverse people of specific ethnic or gender/sexual identities because it makes them feel very progressive but makes no effort to see their "friends" as humans and won't hold them accountable when any of them become abusive or hassle other friends in the group. These are the college-kids who will commit all their energy to fighting a school-mascot which bothers nobody, while literal nazis march on another part of the campus. These are the ones who create campaigns to "take down" another popular leftist for saying something like the word "retarded" while actual threats to humanity rise in power. And generally just find it a lot easier to attack people ostensibly on their side than the actual challenge of fighting for actual community organization efforts against a rising tide of fascism and hate.

For these kids being progressive or leftist is entirely about preserving an in-club of specific people who can hate outsiders, but they feel they have a broader societal blessing for the exclusionary and wildly performative attitudes.

[-] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

for saying something like the word "retarded" while actual threats to humanity rise in power

That one is such a sad phenomenon. I recently saw it in a community I'm in: "Crazy". If the word was once derogatory towards a group of people, I'd say it has long since lost its teeth, while the stigma it used to express continues to exist independently of individual words. Words have power, but fighting words is useless if the power goes unchecked and self-destructive if other, worse powers grow while you're distracted.

That's not to say you shouldn't be mindful with your language, but maybe focus on the bigger issue first. I'm personally not a fan of people casually calling things autistic that aren't, because I'm autistic and my need for clear, unambiguous language compels me to have certain specific terms keep their specific meaning. If you misuse it, I might bring it up (as a personal opinion type thing, I'm just as prone to error or misunderstandings as anyone else), but I wouldn't attempt to "take you down" or anything over it while we're both fighting people that do worse than just misuse language.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

fighting words is useless if the power goes unchecked

I'm going to steal this.

In the meantime, I make deliberate efforts to NOT censor or filter my language if I'm not clearly attacking someone and someone takes issue with my use of... sigh... "crazy" then I know right away that person is NOT an alley to a greater cause, so if anything it does tend to save me some time. I rather let the sheltered kids argue it out with each other if the term "mad" is a problem or if doors should have five doorknobs at different levels to serve people of different heights. (I just made this one up on the spot, but fully expect to see it as the next major culture war flashpoint.)

The right has an advantage in that they don't even think in language as much. This all exists on a spectrum of course, and strengths can become weaknesses in other areas, but it's very hard to teach people that kind of nuance. But the lack of language-based thinking leads to more cohesive in-groups who don't pick apart each other's beliefs. They're able to connect with each other far easier as emotional monkeys, but this also leads to the reinforcement of primitive emotions like fear of strangers and people who look or talk different.

As someone recently diagnosed as autistic also, I have become fond of giving people "the pass" if they take issue with my ableist language. It's good for a laugh.

[-] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

supporting the other empire [...] Cuba, Venezuela

Tell me you don't understand imperialism without telling me you don't understand imperialism (especially funny coming from someone criticising people who don't read theory). Cuba is possibly the most peaceful nation on Earth, with the core of its international policy usually being sending doctors to countries in need. Please tell me a single imperialist act by Cuba or Venezuela.

Critical support to flawed countries is a sad consequence of Realpolitik. Do you support England and the USSR joining forces against Nazism in World War 2? Because they're otherwise geopolitical enemies that only joined the effort because there was a greater evil.

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[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 76 points 3 days ago

Most leftists, generally yes.

Doesn't mean they like US style gun culture or obsessed with them. But the system leftists oppose is armed and has/will use those arms upon leftists that gain any significant amount of power.

Arm the oppressed.

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago

One of the most settled questions on the Left that applies to both Marxists and Anarchists is the belief that Revolution is necessary and Reform does not work.

[-] MudMan@fedia.io 65 points 3 days ago

Honestly, the "likes guns" part doesn't work anywhere outside the US, if that. And that includes conservatives.

Internationally I'm pretty sure "hates Trump" would absolutely be in the center, too.

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 51 points 3 days ago

"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary" - Karl Marx

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