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[–] supafuzz@hexbear.net 40 points 3 days ago

finally crossed the threshold for proportional representation and matching funds in Operating System Parliament

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago
[–] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago (3 children)

My grandma's pc was bricked. It goes straight to bios (and beeps) and does not boot up automatically. Haven't been able to fix it yet (it boots if I press alt on startup though). Anyway, I've nuked windows and installed linux mint. My grandma only uses it for browsing and printing stuff. The laptop is now at least 10x faster than it used to be.

If anyone knows what the problem is with the the bios please tell me.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

put a new CMOS battery in it and it should solve this issue.

reset and update the bios while you are at it.

[–] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah that's my current suspicion. I hate opening up laptops though usually end up breaking some plastic bits

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

cheap plastic and planned obsolescence 🥳 🎉

[–] cinnaa42@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

really ought to be illegal to make expensive electronics that can't be taken apart. waterproofing was a trojan horse!

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

it was always bullshit. back when they were pushing unopenable phones, we had plenty of examples to point to of repairable waterproof phones.

[–] cinnaa42@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

you probably already googled the beep code, but if not, try doing so.

[–] boiledfrog@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can you boot into a live USB lime systemrescue?

Yeah already did that and installed Linux Mint. Also ran the bios repair tool

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago

2025: THE YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago

nyet Windows Nein 11

[–] DeathCubeK@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I would love to use Linux but it still lacks native support for a lot of programs which sucks

[–] facow@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

On the bright side the only program a lot of people use their computer for is a browser

[–] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

It’s incredible how much software has migrated to browsers. I work in an industry and job that, 10-15 years ago, I would have needed a whole bunch of programs installed. Now I could essentially do my entire job from any computer since everything I work in is either browser-based or could be browser-based if needed (the Office suite)

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago

chances are there is a better foss alternative, or it runs flawlessly on wine.

[–] cinnaa42@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

there's a lot of stuff that is supported and with the uptake rising hopefully more applications will have Linux versions soon. otherwise, I've found it relatively easy to just have a Windows drive that I can switch over to in case I need to use something, and Linux for daily use aside from that

Been using Linux for more than 20 years, and I've heard "this is the year" Linux breaks thru during everyone of them. After a few years, you learn you don't really care; Linux works and that's good enough.

[–] cinnaa42@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago (4 children)

do the majority of people know how to install an OS these days at all? like even windows, could the average computer user do that?

[–] Palacegalleryratio@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Like I think if given an installation usb and given a pc preconfigured to boot from USB, then yeah I think most modern installer wizards are idiot proof enough these days for the average computer user… but only if they were driven to install it - I.e. they were motivated and cared enough to read and understand what was on the screen, otherwise I think many would see “format installation volume” and just switch off or panic.

But for the average user to find a distro, download the correct edition, make a live usb, configure their bios for booting from usb, sort missing drivers etc, no. I very much doubt the average user could do that, let alone be educated to and motivated about the possibility in the first place.

[–] cinnaa42@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah for mass adoption someone's going to need to figure out how to make it as easy to install Linux as it is to install Windows. It's not exactly difficult to do rn but it's a lot more involved than the average computer user is going to be able to hack, which will put a limit to the number of people who are willing to adopt.

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

(Not to pick on you specifically)

for mass adoption someone's going to need to figure out how to make it as easy to install Linux as it is to install Windows.

No. This has been true for a decade already. Install Windows from scratch and it sucks too. It will be missing essential software and drivers. It will have tons of absolutely STUPID default settings selected. For mass adoption we need to seize the factories where consumer electronics are produced. There is no alternative. Until then, computers and mobile devices will ship with this garbage and that is what people will use.

The sticking point is not how easy it is to install, or the quality of the software (or how difficult to use and shitty the stock software is). The sticking point is that people are spending hundreds (if not thousands) of dollars on a machine and want it to work "as intended." They don't want to do anything they are conditioned to think might void the warranty. They'll just tell themselves "oh, it works fine I guess."

It is easy (enough) to spend $1,000 on a laptop, unbox it, set the instruction booklet on fire, and wipe the drive before even peeling the plastic film off. Most people simply consider this a ridiculous thing to do.

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Absolutely. When people can actually buy a device with Linux installed, they love it. See Steam Decks.

[–] trinicorn@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

HP dev one kinda flopped

But they really went out of their way to make it a "separate special thing only for developers". They didn't even sell it on hp.com

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah, that's kind of a running theme with pre-installed Linux. You can't just go to the store and buy one, it's always some weird sale they hide in a closet.

[–] cinnaa42@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

I mean fair, I mostly agree, but it's not really true that it's as straightforward to install any kind of Linux as it is to install Windows. Not everything is Arch but it will take several extra steps compared to what Windows requires and the documentation can be overkill for your average user or weirdly judgemental towards users who aren't familiar with Linux at times. A lot of this would be fixable with better education that teaches people how and why to mess with the tech, but obviously that's not happening under capitalism either.

[–] RuthBaderGonesburg@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I know how to google “how to install Linux?” And follow the instructions. That count?

[–] Imnecomrade@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You are around the top 5% or less of the population when it comes to computer literacy.

This is spectacular news

[–] Imnecomrade@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

No, the people who know how to are in the 5% range, though this article referencing a study from 2016 is likely outdated, but the computer literacy rates are likely even worse now.

I believe part of the reason Linux is getting the 5% market share isn't necessarily because a lot more people are using Linux, but because people are switching to Chromebooks and Android tablets and abandoning their desktops, taking off the share of Windows and Mac.

[–] trinicorn@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

chromeOS is in the same category as Linux, Mac and Windows, and sits relatively flat if not declining at like 1.5%

Android tablets maybe but honestly don't think those are huge sellers either. People with only a phone is probably more significant IMO.

[–] Imnecomrade@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah more likely smartphones, Chromebooks and Android tablets were just a couple examples I was giving and not intended as the only devices people are switching to.

Also ChromeOS will be combining with Android into a single platform apparently. Some ChromeOS devices currently report as Android, too, so that may explain the decline in the ChromeOS market share. The number of Chromebooks shipped in 2025 Q1 increased by ~10% since last year.

[–] cinnaa42@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

people are switching to Chromebooks and Android tablets

doomjak

[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

The only problem with personal computing was that it was too flexible and expandable. Far better to have 8 sort of ok at some things and good at one thing devices that last 3-5 years instead.

[–] rubber_chicken@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don't know if I know how to install windows at this point. The last time it was from a CD-R with the 25 character key written on it in Sharpie. Do they sell Windows installer USB sticks so the three people who are enthusiastic about Microsoft get a physical object? Then what, boot holding the key it says to hold to get into the bios, tell it to boot from USB and follow the prompts from there?

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

I think at this point you just activate it electronically. You can download the installation media straight from Microsoft.

[–] Formerlyfarman@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

I downloaded my latest windows iso from the archive. Then there is a tool called Rufus that copies the iso into a USB an adas the bits that recognize it as a bootable drives.

You can also get windows ISIS from your favorite torrenting site.

5% or 50%, Nvidia still won't be releasing Linux drivers.