I have yet to hear an clear argument about why it's time to evolve into an AI browser or how evolving into an AI browser can improve my day to day life.
this post was submitted on 17 Dec 2025
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I've always defended mozilla after every dumb mistake, but I'm over it.
They're pretty much just cooked at this point.
Guess we're going to have to go with Brave then.
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Oh wait
The new CEO's overarching goal is to turn Mozilla into the “world’s most trusted software company,” citing public dissatisfaction with today’s privacy practices and the tech industry’s growing appetite for all kinds of data.
What the fuck does this man think the industry is feeding the data to?
“New CEO”
Did anyone for a fraction of a second expect anything good to follow that part?
How about forking Firefox and make that into an AI browser instead of ruining the good old Firefox?
I've been sticking with Firefox through thick and thin. All through the rise of chrome I stuck with Firefox. They sure are making it hard. Think I'm going to have to pull the plug soon.
Zen, LibreWolf, and Waterfox strip Firefox clean of AI.
Zen is a feature powerhouse like Vivaldi, without the bloat. LibreWolf is privacy focused and ships with uBlock Origin by default.
Zen is my main browser. LibreWolf at work for stability. Waterfox works on PC and Android, but I only use it on the latter so can't vouch for its performance on the former.
There are even more Firefox forks, but these are the one's I use.
I tried to use Zen in my work computer but IT flagged it and made me uninstall it, due to privacy and security concerns. The approved browsers are edge, chrome and vanilla Firefox.
Go figure
If you need to monitor operational processes from within a browser I wouldn't recommend Zen. If you don't, damn, that sucks ☹. I hope you can at least install uBlock Origin in vanilla Firefox.
What do you use for android?
Thank god for Librewolf.
Which is a fork of Firefox. Librewolf lives and dies by Firefox’s continued development.
Ladybird can't come soon enough
If Firefox is now considered a bad choice based on what the new CEO said, what do you think of Ladybird's leader?
https://drewdevault.com/2025/09/24/2025-09-24-Cloudflare-and-fascists.html (relevant section about halfway through)
Ffs why are so many open source developers twats?
Haha Jesus. Seeya!
donate to servo!
fuck this shit!
Sigh.. another one down. Anyone know good alternatives?
Librefox is a privacy focused fork of Firefox. And if what I use. I've also heard good things about waterfox
if you like vim navigation there's Qutebrowser. I use that as my daily driver and I love it. will never use another browser again.
qutebrowser is just Chromium under the hood (same goes for anything that uses QtWebEngine). https://doc.qt.io/qt-6/qtwebengine-overview.html
Christ.
The last few months of tech news alone have me feeling like he ain't answering his ring doorbell.
Personally I've heard of 3 other "Foxes"; Waterfox, Ironfox & Librefox. Anyone know the differences between these & the use cases? I've been wanting to switch off Firefox to something more privacy-focused and this has given me a good push to do so.
IronFox is a privacy fork for Android, the rest of these are meant for desktop.
Waterfox is privacy-focused but more focused on convenience than Librewolf*.
Librewolf is also privacy-focused but leans further into privacy than Waterfox with the sacrifice of convenience.
Mullvad Browser leans even further into privacy than Librewolf with the sacrifice of convenience. Made by the Tor team and Mullvad.
*I haven't used Waterfox much but this seems to be the consensus online
Personally, I use Mullvad Browser as a daily driver, and anything that doesn't work on Mullvad Browser I use Librewolf or hardened Brave for. (Many people don't like Brave but I like to have a privacy-focused Chromium-based browser for web development)