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[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Look... Doesn't that feel kind of like self-pitying rot to anyone here? Why are we dependent on US technology? Because we are so ethical and pure...

Here's the truth.

In the late 90s, a German student created a search engine in Germany. It was a little thing. It only scraped a few hundred media outlets. You signed up, defined some keywords, and when an article matching those keywords was published, you received a notification.

He immediately was sued and forced to shut down under copyright law. Google could operate in the US under Fair Use.

Eventually, years later search engines were legalized in Germany (and the EU). But by then the Internet was dominated by US companies. It makes no sense to spend billions to build a European Google that does exactly what Google already does.

The reason that there is no European Google is that we insist that information must be owned. No data processing without the explicit consent of the owner. Which means, we insist that some intellectual property owners should be allowed to extract rent from us all.

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because, generally speaking, Europe has this thing called laws, and the government arguably exists to protect it's "citizens".

In the US you have this thing called lobbyists and the government unilaterally exists, only to protect it's "corporations"

For example, in Europe McDonald's French fries contain 3 ingredients (potato, salt, oil) and in the US there are around 20 ingredients... The US adds all that extra shit to make the frier oil last longer, to make it easier to clean, etc. and fuck you for being poor if it gives you cancer.

Europe has better frameworks in place to prevent robber barons, this is just as true for the digital age as it was 200 years ago.

[–] Exatron@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

For example, in Europe McDonald's French fries contain 3 ingredients (potato, salt, oil) and in the US there are around 20 ingredients... The US adds all that extra shit to make the frier oil last longer, to make it easier to clean, etc. and fuck you for being poor if it gives you cancer.

That's actually a very poor example because the US and Europe have very different regulatory frameworks. The US actually requires more details when listing ingredients than Europea does.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is a bigger picture here. Food in America is using ingredients that is not allowed in the EU because its seen as toxic. That is what the focus should stay on i think.

[–] Exatron@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

You do understand that the US bans ingredients that the EU allows for the same reason, right, sparky?

[–] FrostyPolicy@suppo.fi -1 points 1 week ago

That’s actually a very poor example because the US and Europe have very different regulatory frameworks. The US actually requires more details when listing ingredients than Europea does.

In the EU you must list all ingredients in your product. Ordered by what it has the most.