Isn't stuff like that kinda normal tho? Humans of all types like patterns, and symmetry, and precision. These things are just very pleasing to the eye
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I'm inclined to believe that too. Then again I would say a lot of "autistic" things aren't abnormal.
A lot of disorders and syndromes are really just normal things that everyone deals with. They just a lot more than the average person. It's like the nepo beach baby who claims they're depressed because they don't feel happy sometimes. That's not depression, that's boredom, you're bored.
Same thing with autism. Someone can be a fan of trains but realizes that a random person doesn't want to have a conversation about them. It's the scale and scope of the behavior/disorder that defines it. Not merely having that characteristic at all.
Oh yeah i didnt mean it in a disparaging way. I am neurodivergent myself.
I feel like autism for most people is would be just considered as a beneficial character trait for a lot of human history. In the same way that some people are extremely charismatic.
It would essentially be seen as just a beneficial role in a tribal society. We likely filled roles of tradesman very well. Blacksmiths, leatherworkers, tailors, etc. I'm just speaking from personal experience. But, there is a reason I loved rebuilding the same Lego set each day when I was 5 years old.
Modern modes of capitalist production don't allow for this type of labor. At least not for the masses. Some of us are able to thrive doing a form of labor like this; but most of us are put into jobs that are completely outside of the whole of the production. Something that is extremely alienating and frustrating for my brain that needs to understand "the whole" before I can master "the steps". At least to a level of enjoyment or satisfaction. I can definitely work on steps before understanding everything. But, if I am never allowed to expand beyond that step, I lose interest. Probably why I can't keep a job for more than a few years.
I think it's why autism is seen as a negative trait by modern society. We don't do well in most jobs unless we are able produce similar levels of satisfaction to this type of "tradesman" form of labor. A labor where you know the source of the materials you are using, the production steps as a whole, and are able to form relationships with the people that are receiving the products of your work.
For me personally. I'm not good at expressing my relationships with others through feelings, conversation, or really just "normie" type ways. I form relationships with people (or show appreciation for others) through material actions. Its likely a compensation for the scientific definitions of autism. The "problems" with it. But, honestly, I feel like it wouldn't be such a downside if I could form those human connections in the way that I am capable of doing.
Edit: sorry, rant. But I'm in the right sub to not have to explain.
As someone who has spent a great deal of time studying my ancestors and how they lived their days, their mannerisms and preferences, my current family's mannerisms and preferences, and then thousands of pages written by colonized people about uncolonized people, this is the exact conclusion I came to as well.
- The outside world is constantly "stimming" for you. Take that away and you need to fill the gap
- you are supposed to be chewing on a root all fing day
- you are supposed to have coveted items for daily use that are passed down or that you keep for decades
- you need an encyclopedic knowledge of minutia, plant leaves, root shapes, the difference between the sound of a fly's wings and a biting fly's wings
- you should be sensitive enough to changes in your environment that you can tell just on instinct, when a predator has walked over your trail two days ago, or when there is lightning in the air from 300 miles away
- your trusted food flavors are solidified as a toddler and are VERY hard to change. These have been determined safe by very dangerous trial and error and shouldn't be tested much at all
- you should be simultaneously impervious to the elements and very sensitive to minor fluctuations in them
- friendships are unbreakable, until they aren't, and then they are broken forever
- you need to be able to spend hours on a hyper-focus, and your instincts and feelings should lead you to which one you need to be doing right now
I mean, just off the top of my head.
Wow, that makes so much freaking sense!
Have you ever quilted or lived with a quilter?
A cut of steak is pleasing to the eye... the slaughter house, not so much.
In the same vain, many people who eat meat could not stomach the processing behind it.
Quilters are a different breed.
i feel like the concept of "horse girl" definitely needs re-evaluation with this lens
Horse girl is just the girl equivalent of loving trains.
Can confirm. Before I left home there were horses around and I adored them ... these days I have to make do with a collection of horse figurines, and a couple of horse tattoos.
In a similar vein, my brother has model trains (which I'm also quite fond of).
We really need to overcome patriarchy then; because trains are so much better than horses.
I found out how to make every autistic male into a feminist. Roll with it.
How to train a horse?

with something like this
Thanks, dad.
Half of my ex's could tell you more about serial killers than any detective.
Hey, I only learned everything about horses in primary school (including behavior, breeds, anatomy and feeding...) OUT OF CURIOSITY!
thats great honey
It is normal. What is not normal is having all the content and stimulation available at your fingertips that we have now
I'm just gonna assume you've never quilted or lived with a quilter.
Yeah I don't really buy arguments like this. When quilting was invented there was literally not much else to do, people had rare contact with a small number of other people, and limited means to stimulate themselves or pass the time. What's autistic is still preferring these ornate, elaborate, complex hobbies over all the inane ways people pass the time these days. Most quilters from back in the day probably would have been perfectly happy to sit in Starbucks or walk around the mall or scroll insta or whatever the fuck normal people actually do with their time, they just didn't have the option.
It doesn’t blow my mind because it tracks with the way we treat women’s healthcare.
Because the things I like to do or talk about were normal (ish) for a little girl, I got to have a doctor look at me and tell me at 30 I was on the spectrum.
Fun! Not at all alieninating!
Needlepoint.
Counted cross-stitch supremacy--adds numbers and counting to the mix
Aw fuck, i got the autism from my grandma
Every hobby or need from the past makes me a cool autistic kid 🙄
Lady CONSTANTLY post shit that leaves behind and normalizes the dehumanized and violent humans with this who don't get away with, ' ohhh I'm so autistic, I spent 100 hours in PoE!'