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I feel sorry for them. But then again, this is what they want.
They oppose making parking expensive.
They oppose bus lanes
They oppose bike lanes.
They oppose trains
They oppose train stations.
They oppose congestion pricing.
They basically oppose any measure that might reduce car dependency.
You didn't mention toll booths to pay for the maintenance. Those can still be added.
What a horrible highway to drive through. The very few times I've been to Toronto, I have dreaded driving through this. It's ridiculous.
Every one of those transport trucks could be consolidated into one freight train...
But also, fuck the cars
You can thank my fellow Ontarians for being fucking morons and electing Doug Ford who rewards his contractor buddies with expensive projects like making another layer of highway instead of improving our ailing railway infrastructure.
It's only 16 lanes. Have they try 32 lanes?
They want to build a tunnel underneath it to add more lanes, so unironically yes.
It's around 18 or 19 at its widest so it isn't like they aren't trying.
When did we, as a people, decide that this is development?
That must be so fucking loud to be near
Oh it is, and there's "luxury" condos right beside it selling for stupid high prices
I feel sorry for them. But then again, this is what they want.
No, it's what the GTA suburban people want. I live in Ottawa but travel to Toronto quite often and the actual city doesn't want any of that shit but our province is run by a petty mob boss
Just one more lane....
Doug Ford wants to build a tunnel under it to add more lanes.
Yes, he's as stupid as he sounds.
No he doesn't he just wants a convenient way to funnel money to people paid to 'study' this boondoggle.
Bro thats the narrow stretch.
More lanes wil definitely fix this issue
Worth calling out who "they" are, cause I know a LOT of people who don't want this.
The federal government certainly doesn't seem like they're doing much to reduce car dependency right now with the motion to fast track oil and gas pipelines.
The provincial government, where this highway is situated, proposed adding a tunnel, yes you read that right, A FUCKING TUNNEL!, underneath this highway TO ALLOW MORE CARS ON THE ROAD.
The Toronto City Council (which, to be fair, has less sway here) is filled with car-brained nutjobs from the suburbs who oppose every measure that they perceive makes it harder for them to get into the city.
Obligatory Fuck Doug Ford
Fuck Doug Ford indeed.
The tunnel was a stupid idea from a high school dropout. GTA needs to upgrade the GO trains, but none of the Vaughan Canadesi get rich off that.
As far as I know, that tunnel is still happening. Till DoFo gets turfed anyway. I hope.
401 is a disaster but I disagree with some of your points. Parking is expensive as fuck, especially downtown. Trains are available, they are actively building a new LRT system. The city is dense as fuck so where would you propose putting more stations?
Lrt is kinda hot garbage though and had eglington area shutdown for like 15 years to build a system that's slower than a bus and added insane complexity to every traffic light sequence at each intersection
For the above ground portion anyway. They are fucking morons for not making it above the road, seperate from traffic and intersections... its just a longer slower bus that needed all that extra infrastructure built just to follow the existing road
Parking is super expensive. Even employees at Sunnybrook hospital pay exorbitant rates
Really wish they would add more subway, fully underground only (or above road!), fuck congesting roads further, look at the extension through YorkU into Vaughan, 50 mins from Union to YorkU? That is a thing of beauty
Are they talking about the LRT that someone beat from one end to the other by racing on foot? Yeah... that's totally a great LRT!!!!
Trains are technically available in Canada, but let's be honest, they aren't reliable, have bad schedules, are unnecessarily complex in certain cases (I have seen that they weigh your luggage like you are boarding an airplane...) and just are not a good service in general.
Toronto has promise from what I can tell because they are trying to build a new metro line, but it has been delayed many a time sadly (common trend) and has ballooned in cost. Just gotta hope.
Vancouver skytrains are great. Autonomous elevated metro, every 3-5 minutes in some cases.
There's a new line going in to extend even further outside current metro boundaries.
I think Calgary and Vancouver have decent trains to be honest. Montreal seemed good when I was there too.
They've literally been building new subway lines
30 years too late.
If only you had a time machine.
Y'all tryna be America or something?
Who is "they"? Traffic reducing measures are generally popular with people living in cities, but stopped by suburban NIMBYs who commute. Just because someone is driving a car doesn't automatically make them part of the problem.
Doug Ford and the PCs.
401 Unauthorized
this is the first thing I have seen from toronto that makes me not want to live there (but I do because all the other stuff)
The thing you have to understand is that unlike American major cities Toronto actually has not a ton of smaller freeways.
The other thing to understand is that the 401 is not just traffic in Toronto, it's also the major connecting highway for about 50 percent of the province. So it's not just local traffic. Anyone trying to get to places opposite Toronto have to take this highway.
The province built a new Highway called 407 in order to help traffic bypass the city. Then the provincial conservative government sold it for a song so they could say they balanced the books for 1 year. It's now the most expensive toll route in the world.
Shit fucking sucks.
Okay but there are a lot of tricks and those carry the goods you use every day. Yes, freight trains exist but you still need trucks to get them to the last mile. Roads are still the best for moving the kind of merchandise the western world consumes.
The cars should not really be with the trucks, the trucks should stick to a couple lanes.
So, you're saying the entire system is fucked? I agree.
If all the cars were removed from the photo, the trucks would be moving at highway speed.
Okay but why are all of the cars black and white other than like 3 trucks?
colors don't sell as well, so they're all basic boring af colors these days.
The colors are less vibrant for sure and a lot of people just stick with black white or grey, but other colors are still a lot more common than what I'm seeing in the picture.
Colored paint doesn't last as well as white/silver/black
Reds seem particularly bad. But our bright blue Toyota still looks like it came out of the show room and its 22 years old.