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[โ€“] Paragone@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd actually want a "No Supremacists Allowed: including zionists, christofascists, islamists, gender-supremacists, class-supremacists, dharmic-religion-supremacists, no actively-butchering-out-country-separatist treason-enacters, etc" policy.

Let the rabid-ideologues not have any place to be, among our civilization.

Let them exist only in their own little country.

I want civilization to live, & they're working at replacing it with their feudalisms.

To hell with 'em.

( anybody who thinks that zionists & Jews are somehow identical, please look up Ultra-Orthodox Jews, like Rabbi Elhanan Beck, & his wish that Netanyahu's "Israel" not exist.

He pointed-out that there are 2-million Jews, but there are 16-million who identify as Jews, but who don't hold to Jewish religion, or who have Jewish ancestry .. but who don't hold to Jewish religion.

He points out that Netanyahu doesn't even bother eating kosher: Netanyahu isn't Jewish, he's zionist.

He also identifies that outside of Netanyahu's "Israel", anyone who looks like they're Orthodox Jew, probably is. However in that place, then you've got zionist-settlers who dress the same way, & there you can't identify which side someone is on, by the way they dress, because the bad-guys are wearing the good-guys' labels/clothing/etc.

That problem, of enemies wearing the same labels/flags/words is a problem in all sorts of domains, not only Judaism.. Christian vs "Christian", e.g.

Please look him up: I learned much about what's really going on, there, from the interviews of him.

In my religion, "the holy land" is internal though, so I"m not certain my concept of holy-land would map into Judaism, at all..

One's pure openness of heart, to LivingSpirit, that is one's Holy Land.

All geopolitical-lands are worldly-lands, not The Holy Land, in this view..

Anyways, he seems a truly good guy, & you may recognize him by his ultra-Orthodox Jewish clothing, & his colorful Palestine button, which he wears gladly. )

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[โ€“] Enkrod@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Sorry, I'm on your side about the โ€œNo Supremacists Allowed"-policy, but the rest of your post is one "No True Scotsman"-fallacy after another. And if Rabbi Elhanan Beck makes these arguments he's either intellectually lazy or vacuous and not a person anyone should listen to.

  • Netanyahu doesn't need to adhere to the jewish religious practices and laws to be an ethnic jew, many jews are completely irreligious, would you deny them their jewdom?
  • Orthodox jews CAN be zionists, that doesn't make them not orthodox, just supremacist assholes on top of it.
  • "Christians" are still christians, their beliefs are not more wrong than any other, just morally worse.
[โ€“] AskewLord@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

no no no, you don't understand. when I GENERALIZE THE PEOPLE IT'S GOOD BECAUSE THEY ARE BAD. when they generalize me and mine or people I like, IT'S BAD.

see, how perfectly logical and correct it is? and how smart and superior and moral I am for thinking this way?

And if anyone on 'MY SIDE' ever does anything bad, it's because they were never truly on my side, or it's a false flag! Because me and mine can never be wrong or bad, because we are good. That includes discrimination, harassment, and violence. If we do it it's GOOD.