[-] Anonymous@monero.town 2 points 5 months ago

That might work, I will certainly look at it, but I like the idea of premining PoW tokens because it won't bog your browser down at the time you need to go through, and the cost can also be made higher. It could be used as a general cost for things that need spam protection, such as creating accounts, making posts, submitting contact forms.

[-] Anonymous@monero.town 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

But they did the opposite. The onion is gone. Presumably they have some reason for that?

Also onion sites in general are very slow because of the six hops. I'd like an open source solution that can be used by anyone, including clearnet sites, so that use of captchas and browser probing can be reduced across the entire web.

And Trocador couldn't go onion only because an increasing number of their partner exchanges were no longer willing to be available over .onion or i2p.

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submitted 5 months ago by Anonymous@monero.town to c/monero@monero.town

Trocador used to be a pleasure to use. No Javascript, it worked over tor, and it had an onion service. Then they got DDoSed. Turns out this is what causes the enshittification of the internet, that sites without javascript are trivial to DDoS. Now, the statement about no JS is gone, the onion service is gone, and if you try to connect over tor, if you can connect at all, you get DDoS Guard demanding you enable javascript so it can try to fingerprint your browser and force you to perform captchas. What if there was a better way?

You use a proof-of-work cryptocurrency that is not only microtransaction capable, but also "micro-mineable", i.e. the difficulty is low enough that you can solo mine multiple blocks per day even on modest hardware. For proof of concept you could use stagenet monero, but in the long term you would use a dedicated fourth Monero blockchain where transactions older than a certain age are pruned, because the idea is that PoWnet coins are something you mine and use rather than using them as a long-term store of value.

You go to website.app/NoBS/, and the site communicates in headers the current cost in PoW tokens of an access token good for X minutes of access and an appropriate amount of server resources for a non-bot user during that time. You have a web browser plugin that reads it, and if you've whitelisted the combination of site + cost it can autopay from a PoWnet wallet so you just go straight through.

No more javascript or reliance on third parties that might be compromised.

To keep people from rolling forward their PoWnet balance forever by making a transaction just before the outputs expire, PoWnet ouputs could have a telomere which is reduced by one every time they're transacted, so they also expire after a set number of sends. It would be a small value, not more than 5 at start, and merging outputs would use the least of the input t-values.

Or you could just pay for website access in minute amounts of mainnet Monero. But I expect people don't want to pay in real money, and I want there to be a way for people who don't have any mainnet Monero to still use the system.

[-] Anonymous@monero.town 5 points 6 months ago

If you don't want it to be pulled from circulation, make it a lot smaller. Chop marks don't get bills pulled. Try a small Monero logo, or a tiny getmonero.org, with total area the size of the typical chop mark you already see on $100 bills. If xmr.org redirected to getmonero.org, using that would be even better.

[-] Anonymous@monero.town 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

A decentralized stablecoin needs to be fungible.

Haveno underscores how unusable non-fungible cryptocurrencies are in 2024. Maybe it didn't matter 10+ years ago when people didn't care about coin histories, but it does now. Even though Haveno supports XMR <-> other crypto pairings, you shouldn't buy them there because you risk getting coins considered "dirty" by the system, which are effectively worthless unless you can dump them on somebody else via p2p. What happens if you get your dai there, and then when the time comes to change it back, nobody on p2p will take it from you because of the risk. So you go to an instant swap or a CEX, and they freeze all of the dai you deposited, because of something up the chain that you can't see.

On every transaction, Trocador now says "Do not send funds that have been through a mixer to this exchange". Have coins you buy p2p been through a mixer? Quite possibly, and that's all it takes for them to be marked "dirty". Companies like Chainalysis now control the value and usability of all non-fungible crypto.

Trocador has a "taint" checker, but it's not free (up $2.2 per check), you'd have to check every p2p address before buying, you don't get the money back if you can't proceed with the trade, the information can't readily be shared with other people on the same dex, and you're funding the enemy every time you use it. And the controlling companies may deny access to that information to the general public or to dexes at any time.

Being able to use dai with xmr requires that in the future there still exist non-KYC exchanges which pay out "clean" dai and handle Monero. What if in the future they've all been pressured out of existence? As a nuclear option to cut them out of the system, all the non-fungible crypto they handle could be marked tainted simply for having been through a non-KYC exchange.

If dai uses USDC as collateral, it can be attacked by freezing the USDC it holds. Any decentralized stablecoin that uses non-fungible cryptos as collateral can be attacked by marking the crypto the smart contract or controlling DAO holds as "dirty". This is the scalability problem that Rune Christiansen is alluding to in his recent posts. Once there are too many people using it, there are multiple ways to shut down dai even if MakerDAO doesn't cooperate. It can be delisted from CEXes just like Monero.

The only way that an unfreezable stablecoin can function long term is if it's a fungible/privacy coin itself, and if it holds nothing but other fungible/privacy coins as collateral.

The two advantages you have versus something like Terra Luna is that the reserves can be verified to actually exist, via view keys, and that you don't have to worry about paying a yield.

[edit] The Trocador "marked dirty by chainalysis" check ought to produce a receipt page that can be shown to other people. I haven't tried it, so I don't know whether it does. Then, if you're buying non-fungible cryptos on Haveno, you should put in your terms of trade that the other party is responsible for putting all the crypo they want to trade on one address, checking it, providing a receipt page link, and not adding any more to that address before the trade goes through. Potentially, that way they can sell a lot of crypto to multiple people for only one $2.20 check... if the service remains available.

[-] Anonymous@monero.town 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You can configure git to use tor, and github currently works via tor.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/27279359/how-to-make-git-work-to-push-commits-to-github-via-tor

git config http.proxy socks5://localhost:9150 # 9150 for TOR browser, 9050 for TOR service
git config https.proxy socks5://localhost:9150

^ affects the current repository. git config --global if you want it to apply to all repositories, including one you haven't yet cloned.

When cloning a large repository, such as haveno, you then run into the problem that git doesn't retry when the other end hangs up, which it often does over a slow tor connection.

until git clone https://github.com/retoaccess1/haveno-reto ; do true ; done

will retry until it finally succeeds.

You can create and log into a github account using Tor Browser, just be sure to never use that account without tor browser. If you actually want to contribute using that account, you will need to email github customer service and have them un-shadowban you first.

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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by Anonymous@monero.town to c/monero@monero.town

It looks like some plans changed at the 11th hour. People on r/monero were saying that in the current climate, the seed nodes would be shut down and the Haveno Council members arrested.

So instead, it looks like the devs are just releasing the software, and there are to be multiple competing instances of Haveno. Anybody can create a Haveno mainnet, they are responsible for finding hosting, appointing arbitrators, setting maker/taker fees, and staying anonymous. The seed nodes are hidden behind Tor hidden services. If one instance gets shut down, several more can immediately start up. The Haveno and Monero developers avoid being operators or taking fees, which makes it more difficult to lawfare them.

[-] Anonymous@monero.town 0 points 7 months ago

Not in terms of numbers. I'm on a lot of gun boards, and I have never seen a single gun owner say that.

When it comes to the NFA and the Hughes Amendment, they are pretty much unanimous in saying "Open the registry" and "The NFA is unconstitutional."

Anonymous

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