PhilipTheBucket

Also establishment media: What the fuck, why are we dying

Israel props up Hamas because it knows it can get away with the terrorist framing to justify it’s escalation of ethnic cleansing and apartheid to western powers. Israel regularly assassinates and imprisons more moderate leadership so that fundamentalist groups gain more prominence. This is the way Israel likes to justifies it’s blockade, mowing the lawn, and divide Gaza/West Bank. If you think Hamas is being played by Israel, sure.

Absolutely agree with all of this.

But it’s not like they have any option other than armed resistance. I can critisize their methods all I want, but at the end of the day, I’m not the one living in Gaza, I have no clue what it’s really like living in those hellish conditions, I don’t really know what I’d be willing to do to try to break free from the Zionist entity that has routinely bombed, imprisoned, tortured loved ones for generations in the largest open air prison on earth.

Yeah. I get this... I'm not trying to sit in judgement of anyone in that situation. Maybe I overstepped my bounds in saying some of these things, that's fair. I'm just saying that "trying to break free" in a way which basically just plays into Israel's hands and gives them the pretext they were looking for to eliminate Gaza once and for all is not resistance, even if it feels like it is at the time.

What the Palestinians actually need is from someone from outside, from one of these powers that has more money, weapons, and size than Israel by 100 times over or more, to step in. And no one is, while they die like leaves in Autumn.

The PA is a fig-leaf of resistance because they directly work under Israel to violently suppress resistance against the settler colonialism and apartheid in the West Bank. The PA is Counter Insurgency (COIN) wielded by Israel to prolong the Apartheid and continue to delay any semblance of statehood. The PA is viewed by Palestinians nearly just as negatively as Israel because of that. They assist Israel’s expansion and crack down on resistance. It’s another arm of Israel’s Apartheid apparatus

Yeah, pretty much. What I'm saying is that Israel overpowers them both by so overwhelmingly much that neither of them is "permitted" to accomplish anything at all. Hamas is permitted to splinter the Palestinians politically, and to commit terrorism from time to time, not nearly enough to be a threat but enough to keep a lot of people (certainly a lot of Israelis) hating the Palestinians and providing a good pretext.

The PA I know less about, but if they are fully corrupted and complicit in Israel's oppression that would make sense to me.

You're not wrong about the Palestinians having no options at all. I don't even know what they are supposed to do.

I have addressed the oversight, I beg forgiveness.

This is one of the most savvy and well-argued pieces of media criticism (which I would argue applies to a whole lot of big-budget media in the present day) I have seen this year, I almost feel bad putting the community that produced it in the "randomness" category.

Thank you, I hope it is useful

I’ll ask you again how many idf terrorists was killed by Hamas and how many was killed by the PA and do you deny that PA are collaborating with Israel and do nothing against illegal settlers

I said literally nothing at all about the PA. My point was that Hamas is corrupt, violent, and counterproductive, which is why the government of Israel supports them. Them periodically killing civilians or IDF people is extremely useful for Likud, which is why Likud likes them. Nothing Palestinian is strong enough to present any genuine threat of any kind of resistance. If Hamas or the PA could present anything like a real threat to Israel as a whole, the leaders would react differently, but different trivial numbers of Israelis killed by one or the other has absolutely no bearing on anything I'm saying.

You seem like you are persistently claiming I am saying one thing, and arguing very vigorously against that thing. Like I or someone here is trying to compare the PA to Hamas. I thought it was weird that you held up the PA as the "fake" resistance or seemed to be missing the point so thoroughly, but I think the only time I ever even mentioned them was asking you some questions about your own point of view.

Israel love hamas so much according to you that they killed all it’s top leaders

Because it barely matters anymore. They are just killing everyone in Gaza.

For a time, they needed to delegitimize Palestine on the world stage, and Hamas was violent enough and not-PA enough to serve that purpose.

Now, what they need to do is pretend that their "war" is against Hamas and not against a totally defenseless wreckage of starving, traumatized familes, and so holding up some dead Hamas people is useful for them.

It's different behavior for different situations. This is not some kind of PhD argument I am making here, that needs a deep understanding in order to grasp it. I honestly have no idea why you are so amped up about this or not listening to anything I am saying, and determined to "win" the exchange instead. I hope you grow out of it, and learn to blossom into the beautiful butterfly of online discoursing that you always knew you could be.

Not to mention, H5N1 in humans is massively more deadly than Covid. I think Covid gave everyone a false sense of security as to how biblical a plague is or isn't when it really gets going.

Even without the vaccine or anything, we could have lived through Covid with its 3% case fatality rate (rising to 10% or something when the hospitals got overwhelmed), and it would have been disabling, but nothing we couldn't bounce back from in a few years. Countries lose way more people than that in wars, modern societies are incredibly redundant. It's not fine when it's people you know, but at the end of the day the world moves on.

H5N1 is somewhere around 30%, last I checked, and that's with lots of attention and care for the handful of people who've gotten sick.

Israel don’t like hamas there is a misconception about israel/hamas relation.

They literally have talked openly about it.

In an interview with Politico in 2023, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said that "In the last 15 years, Israel did everything to downgrade the Palestinian Authority and to boost Hamas."

At a Likud party conference in 2019, Benjamin Netanyahu said: "Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas ... This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank."[36][37]

“Netanyahu’s strategy is to prevent the option of two states, so he is turning Hamas into his closest partner. Openly Hamas is an enemy. Covertly, it’s an ally.”[40]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas#Use_of_Hamas_to_undermine_the_Palestinian_Authority

The idea that they were ever a "charity organization" is pure fantasy. The destruction of Israel is in the charter. Literally everyone else in these comments is aware that they are focused around armed resistance to an occupation. That is literally their reason for being.

Weirdly you still think hamas is the fake resistance and PA is the true resistance.

When I am king, the one and only rule on Lemmy will be that anyone who tells their opponent what it is their opponent believes, when neither their opponent or even anyone else said the thing they're saying, will not just be banned. Someone will go to their house and kick them, and tell them sternly, "No!"

I actually feel duped that I took your comment seriously enough to dig up citations for why it was wrong. Reading the end, it's clear to me that you're either just trying to provoke conflict for reasons of your own, or else you're more or less just sitting down at your computer to go BLBLBLBLBLBLBLBLBL onto Lemmy thinking that it is productive input.

Absolutely. When I've been in a bad place mentally in my life, I literally wouldn't eat except about once a day when I became starving. It was like the whole system that was supposed to make sense of what I was feeling and take actions to fix something that was producing a "bad" signal just was burned out, not working at all.

I started seeing a therapist, and a big part of her solution was for me to go on antidepressants. I refused, stopped seeing her, and continued roughing it out unsuccessfully on my own. Great stuff. Better now. I would say that not being able to function enough to feel hunger or eat when you're hungry is a bad place though. That's pretty far down. I would take it seriously.

I have not a lot of input about how to get yourself out of that way or what to do. Not sure if you're even looking for advice anyway, or just curious. If you are looking for advice, then about all I can come up with is this: A lot of life is habits. Habits don't consume mental energy, and so if you have a lot of good ones, you'll automatically be doing a bunch of great stuff without having to expend. It's like autopilot. And, it feeds on itself: As you're taking better care of yourself you'll have more mental energy to expend to make deliberate choices and put in effort, and you can get to new places. It's crazy how much freedom life really has, it's wide open. But it's not automatic and your brain and your self are one of many types of limited resource that can stop you from getting there.

A lot of it starts with just your thoughts: Your visions for what you're trying to get to. It has to translate to action to do anything, but having the vision will make the action easier, it'll give a reason. But recognize that setting the habits in the beginning is mad hard. Chip away at it, keep building up that consistent track record of the stuff you want to see yourself doing starting small, try things and adjust as you go. It's harder than it seems but you can make small changes consistently and it can work. It's just hard.

Agreed

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Some have inquired about buying the birds for meat, but, as a no-kill shelter and SPCA, those were refused.

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We're cooked, aren't we.

At some point soon, we're going to face some really significant challenge, something like bird flu learning humans, or a major geopolitical crisis. I don't think we're going to handle it well. The non-political side of the government still working pretty well was the last line of defense we had, and it just fell.

If you oppose armed resistance against genocide you are pro genocide. It is that simple

It's not quite that simple. Hamas is a deeply corrupt and counterproductive organization. Israel arranges funding for them and supports them against their political opposition, because having Hamas largely in charge of (edit: ~~Palestine~~) Gaza is often a disaster for the Palestinians, which Israel enjoys.

You can absolutely oppose Israel's genocide and also oppose Hamas's horrifying fig-leaf of "resistance" to that genocide which is mostly useless militarily, and just provides useful pretexts for Israel to do more genocide (not that they need them.)

Else you can pretend to be pro Palestinian by supporting the PA which is nothing more than an extension of Israel oppressing Palestinians.

This is where your argument goes from incomplete to bizarre. Why do you say the PA which Israel dislikes is an extension of Israel, while Hamas which Israel likes and supports (in between military operations) is an authentic resistance organization?

Oh, I didn't mean you specifically, I didn't realize it came across that way. Just that in general a lot of mods / instance owners seem to feel like communications on their server are "theirs," to mold to be the way they want them to be.

There's a responsibility you hold to the users of your system to keep the bullshit out. (And everyone's definition of "bullshit" will be slightly different, which is why it gets tricky.) But roughly speaking, you need to be doing what your users want you to do, and your users need to be showing respect for your system and wishes and the social contract from their end. As soon as either side of that contract breaks down, it's bad. And specifically in this case, there are instance owners who feel that it's their job to make sure the opinions expressed on their server are in line with their own, and fuck the users if they don't agree, because the users aren't in charge.

This is very very wrong. My whole feeling on that, is why I felt the need to write up this whole mini-essay about it. As black-and-white right and wrong of an issue as Palestine is, I feel like it's a bad precedent to set to say that the issue of which opinion is the "right" one and the feddit admins being on the other side has any bearing on this. It doesn't. Simply the fact that they want to delete certain opinions is already enough for them to be in the wrong, in my opinion.