yogthos

It's starting, but it's gonna get a lot worse in the next four years.

That's very much my expectation as well. I think once they realize they got used by the west, there are going to be reprisals.

to be fair, maybe they figure OpenAI will get the bail out which makes it a sure bet

I mean we'll see soon enough, but they tried same sort of thing in Chechnya and that failed.

Actually, it might be simpler than that. They're very clearly angling for a government bailout now.

imagine selling stock in a company selling shovels to get stock in a company that has no business model

I don't really see any parallels between Ukraine and Afghanistan myself. I expect a far more likely scenario is Germany after the end of WW2 or Chechnya more recently.

lol yeah

They are, but they also a bunch of broken and demoralized nazis at this point. I do think Ukrainian fascists turning on the west is a very real scenario though. Right wing is having a huge surge in all the major European countries, and the fascist networks have obviously been working with Ukraine. Even CBS reported at one point how something like 70% of the weapons sent to Ukraine go missing, and I would bet money a lot of them ended up in fascist cells in Europe. There's also the whole betrayal narrative taking hold in Ukraine. The west made a lot of promises it didn't keep, and now Ukrainians are realizing they got played.

Exactly, Chinese models have completely destroyed the whole business model US companies were hoping to build. As I recall, OpenAI has already been lobbying to get DeepSeek banned in the US. I think some European countries banned it already. So, I guess the west will eventually turn into a hermit kingdom.

Yeah the math there just doesn't work. It's even worse with drones cause they're dirt cheap so even using a single missile to intercept a drone is incredibly wasteful. Patriot is basically a legacy weapon at this point designed to intercept slow and expensive missiles as opposed to cheap drones and hypersonics.