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I’ve been working with so many students who turn to it as a first resort for everything. The second a problem stumps them, it’s AI. The first source for research is AI.

It’s not even about the tech, there’s just something about not wanting to learn that deeply upsets me. It’s not really something I can understand. There is no reason to avoid getting better at writing.

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Because learning for kids/young adults isn’t really the point anymore

I argue young people actually wanting to learn stuff that they don't need in work/daily life has always been the exception, historically. How many people are truly intrinsically interested in cellular biology/biochemistry, nuclear physics, and calculus? If they don't directly need it for their jobs.

When I was in highschool, I came up with an expression: "Scratch an artist and you'll find a student of many subjects underneath." To some extent I agree with you, but I think it's more that kids aren't really introduced to a variety of subjects in an interesting way. Art causes you to learn at least a surface level understanding of the science behind color theory and lighting, anatomy, engineering, and a host of other things just by the nature of needing it to get better at creating what you see in your head. Our understanding of anatomy today is founded upon the studies Da Vinci and his apprentices did of bodies that they stole from graveyards and performed autopsies on in secret.

Kids are naturally curious. They know nothing of the world around them and that curiosity and desire to learn is how we get stereotypes like the kid who never stops asking questions.

It's just that the way subjects are often taught is not conducive to engaging with that curiosity (ignoring when that curiosity is stifled by other influences like parental beliefs). Plenty of schools played with Kerbal Space Program, which has a simplified but still fairly realistic depiction of orbital mechanics in it, and that abstracted system taught many kids the basics of orbital mechanics and the science behind building rockets. Minecraft has taught many kids the basics of circuitry, as redstone is literally just basic circuit wiring - to the point where somebody created a full computer running DOS in Minecraft with a working keyboard and screen and everything.

I think it's an issue of approachability vs one of outright not caring. Tomes about the math behind nuclear physics has nothing on telling a kid that today you'll be telling them about the Demon Core or how basically all forms of generating power boil down to new and exciting ways to boil water. When you include the particle physics involved, they'll be much more interested in how that relates to why one guy in the room died while everybody else was perfectly okay than just an abstract on the deflection of radiation by atoms.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You had me until calculus. Give me stats any day, just not calculus.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

sry for the really bad edit ;-)

Also it should say "I don't like calculus" in the first line, i just forgot to edit it.

[–] ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

holy shit I'd take the exact opposite. Stats is hella confusing, at least calc made sense

[–] NannerBanner@literature.cafe 2 points 1 day ago

Calculus isn't bad until certain parts. Series and sequences can kiss my ass.

[–] ChexMax@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I went to school for cellular biology with every intention to be a stay at home mom. Cellular biology is just interesting and fun. Chemistry is interesting but I never would have taken it if it weren't a requirement.