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[–] KelvarCherry@piefed.blahaj.zone 16 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

The anti-data center fight shocked me in how they were able to squash a corporate demand with bipartisan-support. Granted, it was a very extreme demand (wasting extreme amounts of electricity and water with no real output beyond metrics, lies, and deepfake child porn). The focus doesn't matter as much as the methods and the changed outcome.

Whatever happens with USA democracy in the future; this nonpartisan grassroots internet-guided movement worked and I believe we ought to remember that. Even if the USA becomes a one-party dictatorship, there will always be local and state governments, and I believe the internet will survive enough to allow speakers to project similar demands.

Perhaps the next movements could be for a Medicare Public Option; or local-run at-cost Commissary grocers; or removing "forced arbitration".

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 36 points 15 hours ago

the nimby type i am ok with

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 25 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

Consequences are good. But what can be done to stop the data centers? Or the people fueling the demand by continuing to let Alexa shop for them on the Amazon app.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 26 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Demand has always been artificial because they force it into everything.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

True... but let's not pretend millions out there are happy they don't have to think anymore and ask their favorite slop machine for whatever

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 1 points 3 hours ago

It’s about feeding you goods at the top point which they think they can soak you for. Upselling. Not about finding the cheapest product or what you actually need.

[–] Prox@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

If an app maker turns something on by default and people use that thing, that isn't "demand". It's just using the app as it's designed. Shitty product managers/leaders think that people use features like that because they actively want it, whereas disingenuous product managers/leaders understand the power of deception that comes from making features opt-out rather than opt-in.

Actual demand for AI (or anything) is only truly measurable when people go out of their way to use it, not from slapping it on top of something they were already using anyways.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 1 points 3 hours ago

There is no opt out. Alexa is integrated now, on the app, for all searches, whether you want it or not.

They're actually slowly shutting down Alexa because she is deeply unprofitable, even for AI training it seems.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 14 hours ago

Well if one is currently being built near you, all it takes is a bag of sugar in the concrete the prevent it from setting