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Elon Musk condemns the use of electronic voting machines (EVMs) used in general elections in some countries. (lemy.lol)
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[–] TVgog56789@lemy.lol -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

That gives so much more opportunity for human intervention.

A good locksmith is all it takes to manipulate the votes.

Even if you keep it under tight security and surveillance they can bribe the security.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

In my state, here's how it works:

  1. Receive ballot by mail
  2. Drop ballot off at a drop box
  3. Wait a few days
  4. Check online that it was received and the signature is accepted
  5. Check on election day that the vote was counted

To break that system, you'd need to also hack the website or manipulate the votes on election day. That's a lot harder than manipulating proprietary software by bribing a software engineer somewhere.

[–] zazo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

In my country here's how it works:

  1. Parties provides free food and transport to unemployed masses they know will vote for them
  2. Wait 3-4 hours in queue at polling station to receive ballot in person
  3. Drop ballot in secure box
  4. Go back to work for a few days
  5. See on election day that the party that spent the most on voter courting wins

How would you propose we deal with this when people who are working (and can't take a day off to go vote) would come out in much smaller numbers than ones that have nothing else to do (and get free lunch and transit to and from the polling stations) and even when voting happens on a weekend you have to trade your only time off to go and vote out of the goodness of your heart.

I think this is one of the reasons for digital voting - I'd much rather be able to vote from work or home or anywhere when I don't have the time to sit on a queue for 5 hours just to have my vote diminished by a group that isn't politically active but loves a free lunch and something to do

[–] TVgog56789@lemy.lol 0 points 1 year ago

I am not in favour of EVMs here.

However there are pros and cons for both systems

I am just saying if you go for an electronic voting system using an airtight blockchain like Bitcoin and ethereum to verify votes using a biometric database is the only system trustworthy enough because.

If you use multiple blockchains like these it would require 10 trillion dollars or more to get the computing and staking power to hack the system.

It's inconceivably costlier than hacking a physical election.

Russia also has paper ballots and I can assure you we can easily kick out Putin with a blockchain based voting system.

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