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Morris Chang said it decades ago, but the US will need to import a lot of talented engineers and workers if we plan on actually having some amount of self sufficiency in chip design on the leading edge of the industry. IMO, there was zero chance they were ever going to have that fab running by 2024, just given the amount of time other fabs have taken from tool-in to production runs. But this sort of announcement means things are significantly worse than previously imagined.
In this case, it's not a lack of engineers. Taiwan leadership burned through their staff too quickly.
I've run into that a lot (mostly with India, but I'd assume it's Eastern society as a whole). Leadership isn't used to being questioned. There's a very clear hierarchy that must be respected at all costs. I think it comes from the caste systems possibly. When US engineers roll in and propose changes, they're dealt with swiftly and brutally.
(If you want to get philosophical about the culture difference, it's why the US comes up with big ideas, and why Asia is so much better at execution).
There's just an expectation that workers march in lockstep to the death, and US workers simply, culturally, are not like that. Especially not when they have valuable skills they can get paid for somewhere else.
Go look at Glassdoor for TSMC, it's not a pretty picture.
The US has enough engineers...no one wants to pay for them or put up with their whining.
It's more than that. TSMC expects American workers to operate under Asian expectations which is long hours for lower pay. They can't keep American workers b/c they just say no and work for the competition.
Whenever a company says "lack of skilled workers" or "labor shortage", just assume that it's corporate newspeak for "we are entirely unwilling to pay what the market demands for those skills".
If they really wanted more skilled labour, then they'd hire entry level people.
Shockingly, that doesn't happen. Huh!