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[-] satanmat@lemmy.world 56 points 1 month ago

I was denied because of child support

Um. Sigh. Yeah okay dude,

[-] frickineh@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

I mean, that probably IS why they were denied. Anyone in arrears more than $2500 receives an initial letter saying to fix it within 90 days, and if they don't, they get denied. In the state I live in, they don't release the passport until the full balance is paid off. Other states might make payment plans. The venn diagram of sovcits and people who owe back support has a decent amount of overlap, so it wouldn't be at all surprising if this person owes.

The Dept of State would normally either send them a regular ass passport, or a letter saying, "Your sovcit nonsense is nonsense, you can either get a regular ass passport, or we're keeping your money and you get nothing," but no point in that since this moron is probably not going to pay their past due support anyway.

[-] waigl@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

I'm a bit surprised that that was the only reason, though. Why would you expect you could get a passport from a country that insist not to be a citizen of?

Also, "I authenticated my birth certificate to a non hague-convention country"? I'm having a bit of trouble deciphering exactly what that means, but it kinda sounds to me like they just admitted to, you know, forging their birth certificate…

[-] frickineh@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

It's not the only reason, just the first and easiest. Also, they can say they're not citizens all day, but unless they legally revoke it (expensive and difficult without dual citizenship because no one wants to deal with a stateless person), the Department of State knows they are. They think that they're citizens of the state in which they were born, and they want the passport American Samoans get, which is for American nationals, not citizens. They pretty much take real things that exist and try to twist them into whatever alternate reality they're living in.

As for the birth certificate, I'm 99% sure what that means is that they requested an apostille. It's basically a certificate signed by the (state level) secretary of state saying the document is authentic that's attached to certain legal documents. It's required by certain countries, so I'm assuming they said they need it for a non-Hague country and they think that does something a lot more interesting than just saying it's a real birth certificate.

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