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cross-posted from: https://exploding-heads.com/post/94477

cross-posted from: https://exploding-heads.com/post/94475

The decision to halt the universal prescription of life-altering drugs is long overdue considering there was never any evidence that permanently manipulating a child’s body would remedy his or her mental struggles.

In recent years, pharmaceutical companies and bureaucracies began marketing a sterilizing chemical regime as a way to “pause” puberty for the growing number of kids who claim to struggle with gender dysphoria.

On the contrary, the increasing body of evidence shows that pumping kids full of neutering drugs causes irreversible harm, including sexual dysfunction and permanent infertility, a higher risk of cancer and cardiac events, impaired vocal cords, bone density issues, and transition regret.

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[-] S_Roman@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

America should follow the advice/medical consensus of medical professionals to reduce harm to children. And that advice/consensus includes gender affirming care.

[-] shemmy@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago

If a child is under any psychological distress, permanent physical modifications shouldn't be an option: the distress is psychological, not physical. Psychological distress should be addressed by a psychologist, maybe a psychiatrist, not a surgeon. Personally, I believe that care should include helping the child to be comfortable with themselves in their own body, as that will help not only in the case of the child's current gender dysphoria, but also later on in adult life when reality really hits you.

[-] kool_newt@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I believe this is a great example of a "straw man argument". A false and easy to knock down claim is made and said to represent your opponent, then it's knocked it down and said, "see how weak your position is?".

Minors are almost never offered permanent physical modification anywhere in the world, and every effort is made to allow time for figuring things out. That's the whole point of puberty blockers, they delay potentially horrifying changes to allow a few more years to for such a major life decision.

I'm a trans person myself and have been through all of this. I've had to go over incredible hurdles with nearly everyone trying to make any gender affirming care difficult, expensive, and paid for out-of-pocket. I had to bust my ass and become and engineer so that could afford thousands in psychologists and $35K for surgery on top of living expenses.

I didn't become trans because a drag queen read me a book or trans lady made a bud light video, that's the stupidest shit I've ever heard.

[-] shemmy@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I believe this is a great example of a “straw man argument”. A false and easy to knock down claim is made and said to represent your opponent, then it’s knocked it down and said, “see how weak your position is?”.

What was my false claim? That those identifying as trans are going through psychological stress because they’re uncomfortable with their bodies? If someone identifies as trans and it isn’t because they aren’t comfortable with the body they were born with and truly believe they belong to the opposite sex, I’m pretty sure that’s just cross-dressing. If the trans community truly wants acceptance and support, they need to distance themselves from those who are just “trans” for a kink or internet and social points.

Minors are almost never offered permanent physical modification …

Almost never isn’t never. It should be never.

That’s the whole point of puberty blockers, they delay potentially horrifying changes to allow a few more years to for such a major life decision.

That’s propaganda. Do you seriously believe stopping a normal biological process has no lasting effects? Even if it was true that a biological process could simply be paused, if a child is uncomfortable with their current body, would “pausing” it in that state not further make them hate themselves? Sounds like abuse to me.

I didn’t become trans because a drag queen read me a book or trans lady made a bud light video, that’s the stupidest shit I’ve ever heard.

I don’t think anyone ever has. Also, who’s straw-manning now?

Besides all that, my comment was that if you’re having psychological stress, seek psychological help, not surgical. I don’t see how that’s controversial.

[-] kool_newt@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Besides all that, my comment was that if you’re having psychological stress, seek psychological help, not surgical. I don’t see how that’s controversial.

Besides all that, my comment was that's already the case, if you think otherwise stop getting your news from Fox.

[-] shemmy@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Literally never watch or read Fox, lol. Stop strawmanning.

[-] kool_newt@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Maybe not Fox specifically, but you have the same incorrect talking points as all of right-wing echo chamber.

Also

I didn’t become trans because a drag queen read me a book or trans lady made a bud light video, that’s the stupidest shit I’ve ever heard.

I don’t think anyone ever has. Also, who’s straw-manning now?

There are people going to drag shows with guns to stop drag queens from reading books to kids. There are people giving death threats regarding a trans woman making a bud light video. It's clear the implication is that the drag queens are trying to turn kids trans, recruit or spread the gay otherwise what's the problem (for the right)? So that is not a straw man, it's evidence based.

[-] shemmy@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

You were strawmanning me. You have no evidence that I support those actions or beliefs, which I don’t.

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