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Incandescent light bulbs are officially banned in the U.S.::America’s ban on incandescent light bulbs, 16 years in the making, is finally a reality. Well, mostly.

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[-] MSids 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some of these bulbs might be difficult to find in LED and there might be other considerations like shape, heat, dimmer compatibility, etc.. Replacing fixtures could represent a significant burden in these cases and thought there are many exceptions listed they likely represent a small percentage of overall usage.

[-] qyron@lemmy.pt 1 points 1 year ago

I've seen dimmer compatible LEDs and, even better, LED bulbs that have built in control of light intensity and even color. I've even seen bulbs capable of playing music through bluetooth!

Shape I don't really see as a concern, as any shape an incandescent bulb can be produced in, a LED bulb can also be. And then some, as the LEDs can be set up, twisted and bent into some very imaginative shapes and angles.

And heat is not ready a concern. You can touch most LED bulbs with your bare hands with no risk of severe burn. Unless very high wattage is in play, at most, a LED bulb will be warm to the touch.

[-] beigegull@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And heat is not ready a concern. You can touch most LED bulbs with your bare hands with no risk of severe burn.

This very clearly indicates that you haven't seriously considered this issue at all, and are just supporting your political faction with no reflection on what the unintended consequences might be.

A common application of incandescent bulbs is to produce heat, for a variety of use cases. The typical example is an improvised chicken incubator.

Consider very carefully why there's an exception for traffic signals.

[-] MSids 1 points 1 year ago

This is exactly what I was getting at. There are so many considerations and they clearly put some thought into the exception list even though the reasons may not be readily apparent. The order is not a small step in the right direction it's a significant step in the right direction and the impact on actual electricity usage is going to be massive.

[-] beigegull@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

the impact on actual electricity usage is going to be massive.

Is it?

How many people are still installing new incandescent bulbs in 2023?

Is there an actual study showing the expected costs and benefits of this rule, or is it purely political posturing?

[-] MSids 1 points 1 year ago

The article had an estimate from the DoE. Idk, be mad about it if you want. LED bulbs aren't perfect but what is.

"As the rules reinforce existing market changes, the Energy Department believes that U.S. consumers can save almost $3 billion annually on their utility bills. Similarly, it projects that the rules could cut carbon emissions by 222 million metric tons over the next 30 years."

[-] beigegull@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I can't find such a study, and it seems extremely unlikely to me that any such study was performed recently. The original law was passed in 2007, and then the regulations were in political limbo for more than a decade.

My base hypotheses here, subject to easy refutation by any real evidence, are that:

  • The DOE has looked at no study from after 2007 to justify their current policies.
  • This regulation is going into effect now simply because it was on the list of stuff Trump did that the Biden admin reversed.
  • The effect on consumer electricity costs and carbon emissions are negligible, since LED bulbs are a decade cheaper and better and almost everyone voluntarily buys them.
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