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Seriously why? Discuss.online has horrible moderation and open-signups, and Lemm.ee isn't very much better. If lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works were completely nuked to avoid the moderation headache or risks from two large open servers, why aren't lemm.ee and discuss.online banned as well?

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[–] ErsatzCoalButter@beehaw.org 2 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Users on "sh.itjust.works" frequently promote racism and transphobia and other fascist adjacent garbage. Defed is the right move even if they "seem fine" at a glance.

[–] dipshit@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Late reply, I'm looking and I don't see it. It seems their admins are doing a lot to squash a lot of that bullshit. Compare that to lemm.ee where they allow !conservative@lemm.ee to run unimpeded and only ban users and posts after I call them out here. Seems my home server is much worse than that one...

[–] ErsatzCoalButter@beehaw.org 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Here's an image of the guy they let flood their server with bigoted greentexts flooding /greentexts with bigoted greentext

Listen, I didn't join a better server to sit around debating with people about why the server is better, if your mods are trash come to Beehaw where they are good

[–] dipshit@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So you're upset they allow a Greentext community? That doesn't seem like a good reason considering lemmy.ml has one and posts in that one are of similar standards and qualities.

I did read through those posts and they themselves seem benign. Especially compared to other communities like conservative which contain legitimately hateful shit.

[–] ErsatzCoalButter@beehaw.org 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Listen if you think greentext culture is benign, you're getting played by bigots and a lot of people don't want to share your vision of moderation. The mods here have good instincts and I appreciate the environment they curate here on beehaw.

[–] dipshit@lemm.ee 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sounds to me more like you personally dislike a thing and are trying to push it off as being bigoted because you don't like it. Listen I don't like the Greentext communities either, I think their jokes are more on the stupid side, but what they aren't is bigoted, at least I haven't been able to find any examples looking through those communities.

If you don't like them that is okay, but you shouldn't spread lies about people or places just because you personally don't like them.

[–] UngodlyAudrey@beehaw.org 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you don’t like them that is okay, but you shouldn’t spread lies about people or places just because you personally don’t like them.

I think you're coming down too hard on this comment. A healthy skepticism of things that were derived from 4chan is pretty reasonable, given how at least some boards there reveled in bigotry and toxicity to the point where that was what 4chan was primarily known for. So, I kinda do try to avoid greentext communities because I don't view them as benign, either.

[–] dipshit@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't think so. It's pretty toxic to accuse a person of bigotry when they aren't posting things that are bigoted, and actually have and enforce rules in their community against bigotry. All simply because of a content genre they dislike.

I don't like the format and I agree that there's reasons to be skeptical but I don't think it's okay to outright accuse a person of being bigoted when they have not been bigoted. If they had shown evidence of the person being bigoted, rather than their evidence being a guilt by association, that would be different but I haven't seen such evidence and it seems like their community is largely hostile to bigotry.

[–] UngodlyAudrey@beehaw.org 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

To be honest, I'm not that interested in having a back and forth about greentext in a three month old thread (I did not know it was this old when I first commented), so I'll just leave you with this: you should try to assume good faith when commenting here on Beehaw. You kinda gave ErsatzCoalButter's comment the least charitable interpretation it could've been given.

[–] dipshit@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

Ok that's fair enough, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree and end it at that.

For the record I apologize if I came off as too harsh to their claims. I should've been more understanding. I'm very used to people making false claims, especially ones of a severe nature, and when I saw they were making a claim and presenting evidence that wasn't supporting those claims I thought it was one of those. I apologize if there was a misunderstanding.

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