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[–] termaxima@jlai.lu 72 points 1 month ago (12 children)

I agree with the message, but these two points following each other feels a little hypocritical:

“Amazon is supporting new nuclear plants” and “Amazon has a poor climate record”

Nuclear power is the most effective way to get out of climate change. Caring about climate change and being against nuclear power at the same time is a contradictory position to take, and needlessly puritanical.

If we could only rely on renewables, that would be very nice. That is not currently the case. We should strive to have more renewable energy, while keeping in mind nuclear power is here to stay and even be expanded as we eliminate carbon emitting sources of energy.

[–] juergen@feddit.org -5 points 1 month ago (10 children)

i disagree. nuclear power is expensive to build (usually exceeding the planned costs), is not resistant to high heat in summer (as shown by french summers), and a proper way of getting rid of nuclear waste is still not developed.

One Big Chart: how does the cost of nuclear power compare to renewables?

https://www.theguardian.com/news/ng-interactive/2024/may/24/nuclear-power-australia-liberal-coalition-peter-dutton-cost

CSIRO confirms nuclear fantasy would cost twice as much as renewables https://www.climatecouncil.org.au/resources/csiro-confirms-nuclear-fantasy-would-cost-twice-as-much-as-renewables/

Nuclear reactor in France shut down over drought Chooz Nuclear Plant on Belgian border turned off after dry summer evaporates water needed to cool reactors

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/nuclear-reactor-in-france-shut-down-over-drought/1952943

[–] witx 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The good thing about science is that it doesn't care if you disagree, it just works the way it does

[–] shadowtofu@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Building nuclear power plants is not a science problem, though, it’s an engineering problem. Just because we can harness energy by breaking up nuclear bonds does not mean that we can do so economically, given the constraints under which we have to operate power plants.

And OP never disputed the science anyways?

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Also like solar wind and water power also involve science? As do coal plants? So like, really WTF are we even talking about with science "functioning"?

Edit: Seems like this is just the potato version of the "science is what's true whether or not you believe it" quote applied to policy...which actually doesn't work.

It doesn't matter whether or not nuclear plants are possible if humans don't build them. The science backing them existing is meaningless.

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