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[–] dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 83 points 1 day ago (14 children)
[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Lol, called it.

Incompetence and false bravado is all but guaranteed with development teams. Especially when it's closed source, not audited, and has minimal room for feedback loops.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

You don't even need to audit a closed source app to know that Apple knows which devices its sending pushes to. It works because they know.

[–] Enkimaru@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

And how would they know that? That would mean push notifications would go via an Apple Server. Wich a) makes no sense b) can be masquerade so that the server does not know who talks to whom c) the meta information and the notification can be deleted timely

On the other hand, I guess most Android "low level" peer to peer apps go via FireBase?

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

All push notifications go through APNS on apple. That's Apple Push Notifications Service.

APNS requires the device to authenticate with it and can uniquely identify the device by an id. Its how it sends messages to devices.

Firebase cloud messaging acts the same way for true push notifications.

You don't need to audit a device using APNS or FCM on Android to know that it is not anonymous.

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