1313
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] TheWorstMailman@lemm.ee 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Am I missing something? When had he expressed his hatred for unions? As a union man, if he had said something like that it would've pricked my ears. As far as I know, he's said that he doesn't want his employees to feel like they need a union, but wouldn't stand in their way if they wanted one, which is about as good as it gets for a North American business owner.

If this stuff is true then they should unionize immediately. Solidarity Forever

Edit: I'm not going to double down. This was a blind spot for me, maybe because my union is already established and fairly strong, but I'll hold this L and learn from it

[-] Dubious_Fart@lemmy.ml 100 points 1 year ago

in one of the WAN shows he went on a big handwringing tirade about how "unions means I'm a failure as an employer" with undertones of "You wouldnt want to make me a failure by unionizing, right?"

[-] TheWorstMailman@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Okay. So I'm not missing something. I guess I heard him say that it "would be a personal failure for him as an employer" as him taking personal responsibility for his employees' treatment. A charitable interpretation, but just a difference of opinion.

I can see how people can interpret what he says as soft anti-union, it's just weird to see you and others say things like this as if he's sober sort of Robber Baron.

Edit: I'm not going to double down. This was a blind spot for me, maybe because my union is already established and fairly strong, but I'll hold this L and learn from it

[-] SRo 17 points 1 year ago

You are a union man? Go speak with your fellow union people who work with negotiations and forming chapters and ask them what it means when a company says "we are pro unions but we feel it isn't a good fit for us and we would have failed as a company if our employees would feel like they would need one".

Hint: it's something like "get the fuck out with the union shit, I'll fire y'all"

[-] TheWorstMailman@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Fair enough. I'm not going to double down. This was a blind spot for me, maybe because my union is already established and fairly strong, but I'll hold this L and learn from it

[-] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago

I would just like to give props to you for owning up and listening to the information. I do not in any way think that you were wrong in your reasoning, just that there was more context that is likely relevant which you hadn't been privy to, and once you were informed of it you reevaluated. Not everyone does that and I think a very valuable part of this community is when people do that (I know I'm not always particularly good at it myself).

load more comments (7 replies)
load more comments (13 replies)
load more comments (15 replies)
this post was submitted on 16 Aug 2023
1313 points (94.3% liked)

Technology

34988 readers
373 users here now

This is the official technology community of Lemmy.ml for all news related to creation and use of technology, and to facilitate civil, meaningful discussion around it.


Ask in DM before posting product reviews or ads. All such posts otherwise are subject to removal.


Rules:

1: All Lemmy rules apply

2: Do not post low effort posts

3: NEVER post naziped*gore stuff

4: Always post article URLs or their archived version URLs as sources, NOT screenshots. Help the blind users.

5: personal rants of Big Tech CEOs like Elon Musk are unwelcome (does not include posts about their companies affecting wide range of people)

6: no advertisement posts unless verified as legitimate and non-exploitative/non-consumerist

7: crypto related posts, unless essential, are disallowed

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS