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[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 146 points 2 days ago (17 children)
[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Hm, the Edenicity guy makes the opposite case here that small scale farming is actually quite viable (in the context of the viability of cities being self sufficient by growing their own food in urban areas) due to much increased yields compared to industrial scale farming based on studies referenced by David R. Montgomery, and it seems fairly compelling.

[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thank you for that video - it gave me a few interesting articles and a new book for my reading list 😁

And one of the points in that video is there's a huge difference in the carbon footprints of different types of urban agriculture - actual urban farms make efficient use of resources, whereas home gardens and community gardens don't.

And even then, those urban farms are not "self sufficient" the way prepper fantasies like this meme promise - they rely on external inputs like fertilizer and building material and irrigation.

Which is, yeah. I love competently designed urban farms. I love competently designed home gardens. The image in my post is neither.

The image in my post is selling a rugged individualist, manifest destiny, pioneers breaking sod in the prairie image of homesteading - the lone smallholder supporting himself and his family solely through the production of his land - which has rarely been true and, when it was, really sucked for the people stuck doing it.

Small scale farming is viable. Rugged individualism is crap.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 day ago

I'm totally on-board with calling out the rugged ultra self-sufficient individualism, I just didn't want people to come away with the idea that industrial scale farming is the only viable way to farm based on her second tweet. But you're absolutely right that home garden's aren't the best use of resources though. I'd actually forgotten that section of the video, and only remembered the latter part that I linked to until watching it all the way through again just now.

Glad you also enjoyed the vid! He makes some cool stuff ^^

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