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[-] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago

"Whataboutism", or if you are unfamiliar with the term:

"The act or practice of responding to an accusation of wrongdoing by claiming that an offense committed by another is similar or worse"

People that use this mechanism are "poorly educated" and unable to hold a conversation and they should just be mocked by whatabouting even harder, so they can maybe understand that they're dumb and that's not how you should debate.

Example of the last argument I had recently with my dumb c*nt father:

  • Me: You shouldn't idolize that politician, he evaded literally billions in taxes and that befalls on citizens like you
  • Dumb c*nt father: Yeah? And what about that other politician?
  • Me: What about the disappearing middle class?!
  • D.C.F.: What...?
  • Me: WHAT ABOUT THE BEES!?!
[-] BumpingFuglies@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Honestly, in your example, you sound like, as you put it, a dumb cunt. The purpose of "whataboutism" is to point out hypocrisy in your debate opponent's position. Your dad pointed out that a politician on your side did something equally deplorable to the one you'd called out on his side. Rather than respond to that and have a reasonable conversation about the nuance and differences between your chosen politicians, perhaps coming to better understand each other, you chose to devolve to nonsense, intentionally killing the conversation. That screams poorly educated (but possibly with an expensive education that makes you feel superior enough that you don't bother to question yourself and your ideals).

[-] Auzy@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Well. No.

Whataboutism as an argument is about chasing the lowest possible ethical standard. You'll always find someone worse. That doesn't mean it's ok.

Even worse, they're always exaggerated comparisons, such as "zomg, hunter Biden was using drugs". Well, did you vote for hunter? And almost consistently, the sources being used aren't reliable sources. And once those claims are fully rebuked, they move on to the latest nonsense (there are a lot of scared whistleblowers out there who the allegedly mentally weak "sleepy Joe" Biden is apparently threatening lol).

And this seems to be mostly a Right wing attitude

[-] BumpingFuglies@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

this seems to be mostly a Right wing attitude

Let's not make this political. Right wing and left wing are still part of the same bird. They used to move in harmony, balancing each other, but for the past few years, those wings have been either attacking or ignoring each other. The eagle is in free-fall, and it's mindsets like this that keep it from course-correcting.

But what about the children? Won't somebody please think of the children?!

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