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submitted 1 year ago by Heimchen@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

Are the registry procedures causing the problem? Since most of my communities are on lemmy.ml, wouldn't I still be using lemmy.lm’s bandwidth? Or is it more crucial to ensure that the communities are distributed more evenly across different instances?

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[-] pootedesu@latte.isnot.coffee 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To get serious about distribution, I think there needs to be a few features implemented;

  • User migration. Allow people who find themselves on an overstuffed server to migrate to a different instance
  • Community grouping / merging. If there are multiple communities for the exact same thing, allow the mods to group them or merge them to not fracture the user base
  • User data import / export or cloud backup to a personal provider. If one day your server instance just disappears, it would be nice to know I have a backup of my user data, subscribed communities, saved posts and comments, and maybe a way to relink to my old posts and comments across the fediverse.

Just a few ideas I was thinking about that could possibly help users move around.

[-] oxideSeven@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

I find it strange that anything lives on a single server at all. It's wasting one of the best parts of being peer to peer. Redundancy. Every server should just be sharing the ultimate load and hosting parity so nothing can be truly lost when someone decides they're done with their side project...

[-] bdonvr@lemmy.rogers-net.com 15 points 1 year ago

It doesn't really. I'm viewing this post from my instance, which has saved a copy of this post from lemmy.ml

Me viewing this post doesn't hit lemmy.ml at all, although making this comment will.

[-] oxideSeven@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Ah, I misunderstood then.

What happens if lemmy.ml is down?

[-] aponigricon@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

All the users and communities registered there will cease being able to connect to the rest of the network, but the data should still be cached on all the other servers.

[-] tiwenty@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The keyword is "cache". Lemmy doesn't guarantee the cache, so if an instance X would go down permanently, you would eventually lose this data.

[-] aponigricon@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

My presumption was that with over 200 instances, maybe over 1000 in the near future, all the old data should be collectable in theory without loss. But you're right, there's no guarantee of this.

[-] bdonvr@lemmy.rogers-net.com 5 points 1 year ago

Media from users of lemmy.ml won't load. You wouldn't be able to subscribe to communities on lemmy.ml. But I think every other instance would show cached data and hold any new comments/posts/votes to sync when lemmy.ml comes back up. I'm not sure how long that cache is kept.

[-] maniel@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

That's what federation means, not really peer to peer

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